Will1125

There are No REALISATIONS!

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I just realised that there are no realisations. 

As paradoxal as it sounds,  this is an ultimate achievement: the end of research. This cessation is not a regression or a renunciation, but rather a recognition that all we seek is not elsewhere, but here, in the moment. You are not a seeker, you are consciousness itself, the observing being, and when this truth is fully accepted, there is no more searching, because everything is already perfect. This does not mean that there is no action or experience in life, but that these things are experienced without the weight of ego or the need to seek. You are already complete, awakening is already here, and the perfection of the moment is the truth that underlies all experience.

 

Just be in the moment present. Here is the FUCKING TRUTH!

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16 minutes ago, Will1125 said:

You are not a seeker, you are consciousness itself, the observing being,

Imo that's a mistake and seems that some spiritual teachers say that. Let's see, what means conciousness? The observer? The fact of being concious? Concious of what? Of the reality? Then there is you that are conscious of the reality. Then, what is the reality? Something that you perceive? No, you are the reality, and conciousness and reality are the same, there in not an observer, not a fact of being concious, just the reality. There is no reality without conciousness, then conciousness means nothing because not conciousness doesn't exist. Then you are not the observer, the observer is an appearance that happens inside of the reality. 

Then, it's a realization: the appearance of being the observer is what limits. If you want to break your limits and be infinite now, you just have to merge the observer with what appears, then the reality manifest limitless, and then you can open yourself to your true nature, that's hidden by the appearance of an observer. Then you absolutely perceive yourself as the totality, as the unlimited. You are that. You are what is. It's absolutely real, the total depth that exists lives, it's the infinite power, the inexhaustible source. What exist in the eternity.

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15 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Imo that's a mistake and seems that some spiritual teachers say that. Let's see, what means conciousness? The observer? The fact of being concious? Concious of what? Of the reality? Then there is you that are conscious of the reality.

Exactly, consciousness in the way OP writes means duality. I heard Rupert Spira say if I remember correctly something along the lines of there being two steps in awakening. First consciousness awakens to itself, but that’s still duality, then it merges with everything, something like that. Don’t know what that’s all about. How can there be a “nothing” (consciousness) separate from everything 

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@Will1125 

We zoom into stories and all the hypnotic forms morphing around, and get lost in them all the time. So much distraction, everywhere you look there goes your focus and you get lost. 

 

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Realizations are needed up until the point when they are not Needed! Its like this with Everything, You use the tool then drop it when its not needed.. When one is not Realized, they need to Realize that everything is within Themselves, when that happens then no more Realizations need to happen. just like One can Use Suffering up until the point where the Suffering is gone and then its not needed anymore, so Use Everything as a path to Liberation from this Body, Mind, Emotional Complex we are sort of stuck in, when that happens nothing is needed anymore...


Karma Means "Life is my Making", I am 100% responsible for my Inner Experience. -Sadhguru..."I don''t want Your Dreams to come True, I want something to come true for You beyond anything You could dream of!!" - Sadhguru

 

 

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A question I have for many people on this forum who tend to make enlightenment into a binary achievement where if you have it, you no longer need to do anything more or expand any more. My question is simply, what do you plan on doing after your so called enlightenment happens? My honest understanding is that consciousness is infinite and thus no matter how enlightened you become there is still more to do, learn, achieve, explore, realize, etc.

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7 minutes ago, Da77en said:

A question I have for many people on this forum who tend to make enlightenment into a binary achievement where if you have it, you no longer need to do anything more or expand any more. My question is simply, what do you plan on doing after your so called enlightenment happens? My honest understanding is that consciousness is infinite and thus no matter how enlightened you become there is still more to do, achieve, explore, realize, etc.

what they call enlightenment is the opening to your infinite nature. The only thing you are going to do after this is the same thing you did before: live according to your inclinations and intuitions. The difference is in the mental vibration, in the expansion of your interior, which stops being constrained by the limits of the ego and becomes breadth. There are no limits, no difference between outside and inside, then some kind of aggressiveness starts to decrease, some behaviors than before seemed normal reveals like crazy, impossible to maintain. What you want is more openess, being totally aligned, then you move in that direction 

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3 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Exactly, consciousness in the way OP writes means duality.

I think that the term conciousness is always misleading. They say: the conciousness creates a dream. Then the conciousness is like an entity that does things? And that entity is me, who has the control. Ego in another level at the end. 

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39 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Realizations are needed up until the point when they are not Needed! Its like this with Everything, You use the tool then drop it when its not needed.. When one is not Realized, they need to Realize that everything is within Themselves, when that happens then no more Realizations need to happen. just like One can Use Suffering up until the point where the Suffering is gone and then its not needed anymore, so Use Everything as a path to Liberation from this Body, Mind, Emotional Complex we are sort of stuck in, when that happens nothing is needed anymore...

 How can one plan a realization. It just happens. Even when work is put into it, it still happens by itself. Needed? Needed for what and for whom. Life cannot be controlled. Saying no more realizations need to happen is like saying after we breathe once no need to breathe again. Your whole comment is one of trying to use life for your needs. After you're done with it, you can discard it because you don't need it anymore.

Saying one can use suffering up until the suffering is gone and it's not needed anymore is like saying people know when they're going to suffer. Do you throw away the hammer after you're done hammering a few nails. No, you keep it until you might need it again. Suffering is not a tool, it's a sign. A sign that something is off, whatever that is. One doesn't need to be liberated from the body, mind emotional complex. The body doesn't need liberation. It's doing it's job pretty well without the mind's interference. It's the mind that need to recognize it's not a separate entity. We are not stuck in a body. The one that believes it's stuck in a body is the one trying to free itself. It doesn't really exist without being in relation to something else and really has no grounds. Take away it's foundation and it's revealed to be nothing. No one. Thoughts, beliefs, concepts, and identities is it's foundation. Where is the person stuck in a body. Nothing is needed to begin with as life is already taking care of itself. It only seems like there's someone doing it. That contracted constricted energy called the I. There's only one I and it's the Self. The Self needs no liberation from itself because it's all there is. You say I, I say I, we all say I. There's nothing needed, it's all been provided, we only need to choose what part we want to experience; and we do that by aligning our thoughts and only focus our awareness on what it is we would like to see more of. It's that simple. No need for liberation, because it's already liberation. You just can't recognize it because you're thinking you're a separate human being stuck in a body that needs to be rescued and liberated. That's the illusion. Not life itself. There's nothing but life and the very need for liberation is the acknowledgement of death, which doesn't exist but as a concept in the mind of the concept that created it. Saying when that happens and nothing is needed anymore, is right because the one that was dead is now alive and became one with life which doesn't need anything.


 

 

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6 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

I think that the term conciousness is always misleading. They say: the conciousness creates a dream. Then the conciousness is like an entity that does things? And that entity is me, who has the control. Ego in another level at the end. 

Exactly 

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