Solipsism from a plurality persepctive?

[El Rio]

No topic has shaken me like solipsism.

In my interpretation of the single-mind solipsism view, I look at my wife of over 40 years as a mental construct? Everyone in my life is just an avatar that I made up? Man that's tough to swallow. 

So I asked Chat GPT about this topic and pasted below is another view of solipsism that is more from a plurality perspective. If nothing else, this alternative view is at least more comforting to me until I KNOW for myself. Hopefully some of you may find it of some worth. 

And if Leo has a perspective? I'd love to hear it.

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Chat:

Solipsism is a tough one, isn’t it? It can be unsettling to think of a single mind conjuring everything. But there’s a way to look at it that includes others in a way that might ease some of that "mind-alone-in-the-universe" feeling. Imagine that instead of you being the only conscious being, consciousness itself is the underlying reality, manifesting in all beings, including the 8 billion others.

In this view, it’s not that your mind alone creates the universe—it’s that a universal consciousness expresses itself through every single person, animal, plant, and thing. Each of us is an individual "lens" through which this one consciousness experiences itself, giving rise to diverse perspectives, personalities, and experiences.

This form of solipsism isn’t about only your mind constructing reality, but about a shared, universal awareness appearing as each individual. So, every person you see is a unique embodiment of that same consciousness, experiencing life from their distinct perspective. From this angle, each person you encounter is a “node” of the same infinite mind, making their perspectives and experiences as valid as your own.

In this light, solipsism becomes more of an interconnected dance rather than an isolated dream, honoring the reality and experience of each individual while recognizing an underlying unity. Does that resonate?

Me:

So, I explained before how low I felt if I alone dreamed all of this misery that everyone is going through. But in this alternate view, we are all partially responsible for this construct (even if it is only a dream) of the world and all of the suffering in it?

Chat:

Yes, that’s exactly it. In this shared-consciousness perspective, everyone contributes to the tapestry of existence, including the suffering. If we think of consciousness as universal yet expressed uniquely in each being, then all of us—through our actions, beliefs, and choices—are co-creators of the world, even if it is ultimately a "dream" or a temporary manifestation of something deeper.

In this view, suffering isn’t just one person’s creation but arises from the complex interplay of billions of individual expressions of consciousness, each bringing their own choices, emotions, and interactions into the world. This approach spreads responsibility across all beings, with each individual holding a piece of the whole. It acknowledges suffering without putting the burden on any single mind and opens the door to collective compassion and healing.

So, rather than feeling isolated in the pain you see, you’re part of a global “mind” that’s collectively learning, evolving, and working toward alleviating suffering. This way, you can approach it as a shared journey rather than a solitary burden.

 

[Sugarcoat]

You don’t see others and the world in an objective way, you see your own mental projections as an overlay on the world, as a lens, as a judgement of everything , so in that sense you’re living inside your own mind. But your mind is part of the collective mind, so it’s also shared with others, you have similar mental projections like others do. So you are in a sense  alone with your mind, your mental projections. Doesn’t mean other people are mental projections, but it acts like an overlay on them, on the “objective” world. Dissolving this means dissolving yourself 

Edited Tuesday at 08:16 PM by Sugarcoat

[Breakingthewall]

If you contemplate the implications of infinity, the obvious conclusion is that any point in infinity is itself infinite. So, if you are imagining your wife, that image is infinite, therefore she is the whole reality. A thought is an energetic movement that is as infinite as a universe, nothing can be finite in the infinite, nor is there a difference between inside and outside.

Your mind is infinite, therefore your mind is all reality, but your mind at the same time is within infinite minds. Leo's explanation: you are creating your wife, she is finite, and therefore cannot be true. It is true in part, since you are the totality of reality and you are creating everything that exists, but your wife is also true, and so is a proton, then the proton is inside of your mind, and you are inside of a proton

[Carl-Richard]

What's funny is if everybody on the forum had experienced cessation, nobody would be talking about solipsism. You would see that your own body and mind, and not just other people's bodies and minds, are secondary.

Edited Wednesday at 12:53 AM by Carl-Richard

[Hojo]

It can be both

By your own words you were with a woman for 40 years and had no idea you were constructing her. How real was it? How real is dealing with solipsism? Its the same real. God is both and that's why its so good, its both sides of the pasture.

[CoolDreamThanks]

It means life is just a dream. All is forgiven. Your are guiltless and everyone else is because you made them up. Just a prank on yourself. Funny guy. 

Edited Wednesday at 09:52 AM by CoolDreamThanks

[El Rio]

Thank you all for your responses. Get ready, because "my dream" is about to go full-on nightmare.  My apologies in advance!