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If truth is love, why are so many people untruthful in the pursuit of love?

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5 hours ago, creativepursuit said:

Perhaps, It's not in our control, true love is possible only with the grace of God.

Note, that with this line of reasoning, you can say, "truth is possible only with the grace of God", since truth = love. 

And I'm sure that truth, to varying degrees, is a feature of consciousness. For example the truth that "I am" is not subject to any grace from anything. I'm infinitely sure about that I am. No grace needed.

You see why I question this stuff?

No one of you guys, has a deep, authentic, in direct experience rooted explanation of Truth = Love.

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You can boil it down to:

Do they think this lie will bring more love.

You may not understand it, especially if there are a lot of distortions in the way, but that's what everything reduces to.

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The sense of duality, which is a barrier to true love, must prevail so long as the apperception of truth has not occurred. Once individuality is surrendered, there is only total love. ~ Ramesh Balsekar

 

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2 hours ago, Vynce said:

And I'm sure that truth, to varying degrees, is a feature of consciousness. For example the truth that "I am" is not subject to any grace from anything. I'm infinitely sure about that I am. No grace needed.

Yes, but I won't apply the same reasoning as "I am" to Love. Metaphysical Love or True Love is the total annihilation of your "self", can you imagine what that could look like? "I am" is one truth but there are deeper layers, maybe?

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3 hours ago, Vynce said:

Note, that with this line of reasoning, you can say, "truth is possible only with the grace of God", since truth = love. 

And I'm sure that truth, to varying degrees, is a feature of consciousness. For example the truth that "I am" is not subject to any grace from anything. I'm infinitely sure about that I am. No grace needed.

You see why I question this stuff?

No one of you guys, has a deep, authentic, in direct experience rooted explanation of Truth = Love.

No one can tell you what love is. You have to be in love and be the love.

It is like trying to explain you the taste of meet or sugar.


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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1 hour ago, James123 said:

No one can tell you what love is. You have to be in love and be the love.

It is like trying to explain you the taste of meet or sugar.

Yes, my intention is not to know love via some online forum discussion. My intention is to know why the equation "Love = Truth" exists. And since an equation is intellectual I'm sure someone can derive it to me. I still don't see anyone attempt to explain.

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7 minutes ago, Vynce said:

Yes, my intention is not to know love via some online forum discussion. My intention is to know why the equation "Love = Truth" exists. And since an equation is intellectual I'm sure someone can derive it to me. I still don't see anyone attempt to explain.

You can not know the path, you have to walk it.


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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