If truth is love, why are so many people untruthful in the pursuit of love?

[James123]

4 minutes ago, Vynce said:

I'm thinking about doing a 5-meo-DMT ceremony again. And ask God its possible to get my leg motorics back to work. But I have to wean off of the medications first.

No worries brother anytime.

Moreover, Imo, firstly,  you should try to look for what You really are. Because, you are not this body believe me, it is just temporary reflection.

6 minutes ago, Vynce said:

By the way, I also think that suffering can be a gift from God, but then I ask myself what is won with this gift, if it leads to suicide. I want to ask that as well

It is a gift of surrendering the ego, because, suffering happens to ego, not You. But you think that ego is you, but it is not. Therefore, your real answer is recognizing that what You really are. But, this is not an easy path.

Because, the one who got hit by construction truck will die. 

Additionally, do you live in us? Ceremonial 5 Meo includes so much toxic. İmo, you should get powder 5meo, if you can. Or dry shrooms. They will open you up like a flower. Specially, if you eat fresh lemon after consuming the shrooms, which is at least 5 gr within darkness and silence. 

[Vynce]

17 minutes ago, James123 said:

No worries brother anytime.

Moreover, Imo, firstly,  you should try to look for what You really are. Because, you are not this body believe me, it is just temporary reflection.

It is a gift of surrendering the ego, because, suffering happens to ego, not You. But you think that ego is you, but it is not. Therefore, your real answer is recognizing that what You really are. But, this is not an easy path.

Because, the one who got hit by construction truck will die. 

Additionally, do you live in us? Ceremonial 5 Meo includes so much toxic. İmo, you should get powder 5meo, if you can. Or dry shrooms. They will open you up like a flower. Specially, if you eat fresh lemon after consuming the shrooms, which is at least 5 gr within darkness and silence. 

Yes, I'm thinking of the powder. Currently I'm in Portugal where 5-meo, including every other psychedelic substance is descriminalized. 

I don't really have experiences with shrooms, but around 30-40 LSD trips, which always made me feel agitated afterwards. Thats why I prefer a short-lived 5-meo like experience. But I'm not in a rush.

[James123]

2 minutes ago, Vynce said:

Yes, I'm thinking of the powder. Currently I'm in Portugal where 5-meo, including every other psychedelic substance is descriminalized. 

I don't really have experiences with shrooms, but around 30-40 LSD trips, which always made me feel agitated afterwards. Thats why I prefer a short-lived 5-meo like experience. But I'm not in a rush.

Oh ok. İt is good that you are not in suicidal mood. Because, i was in the rush lol. For me, personally, long trips are always more beneficial. But, it is just a personal opinion. Shrooms, specially high dosage of shrooms are worst than Lsd afterwards. 

[James123]

@Vynce moreover, this is my 10 gr trip report. Check out if you are interested.

 

[Breakingthewall]

Saying that truth is love is misleading, and the word "truth" too.  it implies saying: hey brother, that the Apaches skin your family alive in front of you and then bury you in an anthill to be devoured alive by ants for a week, is love! What sense does this have? confusion and appear as special and spiritual. 

We are humans and we have a language. Love means one thing, being tortured means another, and that's it. Let's use the language to communicate, not to appear so profound 

Usually when people use the word love they mean attachment, 99% of times, there is very few people who says, I love a duel with axes. No, they love their grand mother and that, because they feel protected, comfortable and at home. Not because they see in their grand mother the power of creation of existence. Then why to use that word? 

 

[gettoefl]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Saying that truth is love is misleading, and the word "truth" too.  it implies saying: hey brother, that the Apaches skin your family alive in front of you and then bury you in an anthill to be devoured alive by ants for a week, is love! What sense does this have? confusion and appear as special and spiritual. 

We are humans and we have a language. Love means one thing, being tortured means another, and that's it. Let's use the language to communicate, not to appear so profound 

Usually when people use the word love they mean attachment, 99% of times, there is very few people who says, I love a duel with axes. No, they love their grand mother and that, because they feel protected, comfortable and at home. Not because they see in their grand mother the power of creation of existence. Then why to use that word? 

 

Love is for certain the most profound and misunderstood force in existence, and it is by no means limited to desire or to comfort. Rather, it is the will of the totality in action - the magnetism that guides all things unstoppably toward unity, healing, and the escape from suffering. Love is the premise underlying creation, a natural impulse towards fullness and wholeness, and an overwhelming energy of transformation that allows the universe slowly yet steadily to evolve and rise beyond violence, pain, and division.

The suffering and cruelty that we witness, as horrifying as they can be, are as far as can be from demonstrations of this love. They are distortions of life, reflections of a universe caught in a stubborn belief in separateness from the ultimate. However, love remains undiminished as the universal drive and unrelenting imperative that guides one and all towards snapping out of this wild story. It is the power moving internally to first recognize suffering, next to handle it, and ultimately to transcend it.

In this relative realm we inhabit - this manifestation of forms, where we experience both the light and the darkness - love is the innate impulse that calls us back to oneness and transcendence, even as we confront pain and conflict. The existence of suffering cannot nullify love; instead, it hastens a movement towards liberation from suffering, a path that love will support.

Love, in short, isn’t merely accepting or rationalizing every experience as “good.” Rather, love is the lavishly supplied fuel that works to transcend incidents of harm, so as to heal, and to restore all things to their highest expression. One day, this movement will extinguish the need for the relative realm’s cycle of suffering altogether. Until then, love is the relentless call toward freedom, growth, and the deep peace that lies beyond separation and fear. So, while it’s undeniable that not every experience here reflects love directly, it’s also true that every movement towards wholeness, kindness, and healing towards this is love manifesting its truth.

And thus know well, all ye who enter, the dark draws dim with the end ever more nigh.

Edited November 13 by gettoefl

[James123]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

We are humans and we have a language. Love means one thing, being tortured means another, and that's it. Let's use the language to communicate, not to appear so profound

Anyone who hasn't meet with love, haven't get back to home yet. Love is the core of every feeling and reason of life, these writings, breathing, etc ..

Edited November 13 by James123

[Breakingthewall]

@gettoefl @James123  well, agree in some sense. the ultimate reality is totality, absolute existence, inevitable total will of existing. Agree that call it love is not wrong because real love is when we as humans flow without hindrance, and any hindrance is just a mental barrier that prevent us to perceive the real flow of existence , then hate, torture and anything is love but we don't perceive it, but call it love is very misleading 

25 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

One day, this movement will extinguish the need for the relative realm’s

What day? That's impossible . Everything that happens is relative appearance, and the appearances are infinite, that means no finish. The reality flows infinitely, and what we call suffering, horror, pain, evilness is the same than a chemical reaction in the mud. Only the meaning that we give define it as suffering, from a wider perspective is nothing . 

[Sugarcoat]

Once during sleep paralysis vibrational state a female voice told me suffering is love so I believe it . Nature of reality is love it’s said . 

Edited November 13 by Sugarcoat

[James123]

7 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

@James123  well, agree in some sense. the ultimate reality is totality, absolute existence, inevitable total will of existing. Agree that call it love is not wrong because real love is when we as humans flow without hindrance, and any hindrance is just a mental barrier that prevent us to perceive the real flow of existence , then hate, torture and anything is love but we don't perceive it, but call it love is very misleading 

What do you want to call it?

[Breakingthewall]

24 minutes ago, James123 said:

What do you want to call it?

Absolute potential 

Btw, watch this two fights from begging to end, that's absolute love 

 

[gettoefl]

43 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

@gettoefl @James123  well, agree in some sense. the ultimate reality is totality, absolute existence, inevitable total will of existing. Agree that call it love is not wrong because real love is when we as humans flow without hindrance, and any hindrance is just a mental barrier that prevent us to perceive the real flow of existence , then hate, torture and anything is love but we don't perceive it, but call it love is very misleading 

What day? That's impossible . Everything that happens is relative appearance, and the appearances are infinite, that means no finish. The reality flows infinitely, and what we call suffering, horror, pain, evilness is the same than a chemical reaction in the mud. Only the meaning that we give define it as suffering, from a wider perspective is nothing . 

Relative is temporary and a blip in the absolute's divine perfection where it decided to contemplate a thought of insanity

Nobody would choose this here and nobody will choose this again per the expression, once bitten twice shy

Or fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me

The divine is allowed a wayward thought, that is my prerogative, but I am perfectly happy as I truly am, thanks but no thanks

Edited November 13 by gettoefl

[Yimpa]

Let’s consider that being a human is inherently untruthful. The original sin, so to speak (from a snake’s tongue). 

[Breakingthewall]

10 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

Relative is temporary and a blip in the absolute's divine perfection where it decided to contemplate a thought of insanity

Nobody would choose this here and nobody will choose this again per the expression, once bitten twice shy

Or fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me

The divine is allowed a wayward thought, that is my prerogative, but I am perfectly happy as I truly am, thanks but no thanks

Your bias is so high that it's absolute bias 😅. The divine doesn't allows anything, movement happens, relative flow in the absolute. Good and bad is only your opinion, the meaning that you give. This is the barrier, the bias. If you want to open yourself to the absolute, everything must be exactly the same at least for a while. If not there is always a door

[James123]

20 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Absolute potential 

Btw, watch this two fights from begging to end, that's absolute love 

 

20 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Absolute potential 

Btw, watch this two fights from begging to end, that's absolute love 

 

İ love boxing. İ will watch tonight. Thank you. 

[Breakingthewall]

2 minutes ago, James123 said:

İ love boxing. İ will watch tonight. Thank you. 

Both fights are great because they give everything 

[gettoefl]

52 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Your bias is so high that it's absolute bias 😅. The divine doesn't allows anything, movement happens, relative flow in the absolute. Good and bad is only your opinion, the meaning that you give. This is the barrier, the bias. If you want to open yourself to the absolute, everything must be exactly the same at least for a while. If not there is always a door

This here is degeneracy, destitution, decadence, delusion, death

If you can't see that this is undesirable unappealing and unwelcome, we have nothing to talk about

My realization is that I saw this here and I rejected it forthwith and said no more and never again

All love all over all the time is my choice and trust me when I say, I as the absolute reality have that choice

Here gives me nothing and I have no need of its troubles particularly compared to what is my birth-right

Anybody in their right mind surely concurs

Edited November 13 by gettoefl

[Breakingthewall]

44 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

This here is degeneracy, destitution, decadence, delusion, death

If you can't see that this is undesirable unappealing and unwelcome, we have nothing to talk about

My realization is that I saw this here and I rejected it forthwith and said no more and never again

All love all over all the time is my choice and trust me when I say, I as the absolute reality have that choice

Here gives me nothing and I have no need of its troubles particularly compared to what is my birth-right

Anybody in their right mind surely concurs

Remove all judgement and pure existence remains. That's the real spirituality, not waiting for a brilliant future, see the brilliance now. The only hindrance to perceive the absolute brilliance of existence is our bias, and that bias is just an evolutive tool. This, now, is the reality. Remove the bias and that's it

[Razard86]

On 11/12/2024 at 5:14 AM, Vynce said:

If truth is love, why are so many people untruthful in the pursuit of love?

Because it is fun. Devilish fun is part of truth. Truth is simple, it can only complicate itself in twisted ways. Its why they say the devil is in the details.

[creativepursuit]

On 12/11/2024 at 4:25 PM, Vynce said:

And why in our human dimension not much of this unconditional love is felt

Perhaps, It's not in our control, true love is possible only with the grace of God.