Power is important if you want to raise collective consciousness

[ChrisZoZo]

7 hours ago, James123 said:

Buddha, Christ, Muhammed,

They influenced power and power changed that how you do it! 

[ChrisZoZo]

@integral good post man I feel you when people oppose your views when you have a good point. 

[James123]

28 minutes ago, ChrisZoZo said:

They influenced power and power changed that how you do it! 

LoL. What a joke 🤣 

[ChrisZoZo]

5 hours ago, James123 said:

 

5 hours ago, ChrisZoZo said:

They influenced power and power changed that how you do it! 

LoL. What a joke 🤣 

 

Where’s the joke. Please explain. 

[Princess Arabia]

10 hours ago, James123 said:

No adjustment can make you to realize the love and be in love. 

The one has to walk the path and you can not do that with money.

Lmfao. Says Ms. Who has never a breakthrough:) 

Says Mr "I'm Enlightened, asks me anything", turns out not enlightened and "I'm leaving the forum since there's no point and nothing exists", comes back a week later to tell people they don't exist. Love you James❤️

[Schizophonia]

No, you are the collective consciousness. 

 

It's still a tentative to pretend that what you consider being "dumb", "low consciousness" or idk what else doesn't belong to you, to not having to recognize the mirror.

Edited Tuesday at 03:45 PM by Schizophonia

[James123]

12 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Says Mr "I'm Enlightened, asks me anything", turns out not enlightened and "I'm leaving the forum since there's no point and nothing exists", comes back a week later to tell people they don't exist. Love you James❤️

Love you toooooooooooooooooo.

[Schizophonia]

I am OP, whoever want to play to controlling/explaining life to others.

Caliph in place of the caliph persona.

 

Actually the mirror effect is immediate, so by explaining @integral does that, i'm directly practicing this persona. 

"Look, here he plays the caliph in place of the caliph" = I play the caliph in place of the caliph.

"Look, how he shows off" = I show off.

"You're an asshole" = I'm an asshole.

etcetc

[integral]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

No, you are the collective consciousness. 

Yeah and it's a wild mess. I need to clean myself up.

[integral]

7 hours ago, ChrisZoZo said:

@integral good post man I feel you when people oppose your views when you have a good point. 

lmaoo you got to get comfortable with opposition if you want to play the game at a world-class level. 

[theleelajoker]

15 hours ago, integral said:

Sadguru and even Leo have participated in high consciousness business. And it all has an important role, but it’s just not enough to play the game at the world level. We need more sophisticated high consciousness, large organizations.

If a bunch of Christian radicals can take over the United States with the help of Donald Trump then there’s no reason we who consider ourselves more conscious than them, can’t also play this game intelligently.

We Should be able to play this game better than them. But we’re not.. 

And this is because something is missing in the practice.

We need to rethink the practice and really create a world class spiritual teaching that is applicable to this era.

We should be playing this game better than Elon and better than Trump, but we’re not.

There is something to it. I already thought about it as well.  The bold statements hit the nail on the head IMO.

Should not be a problem to be "conscious" and powerful as well. Look at Goenka and what he created- Vipassana Centers, donation-based, all around the world. He visited prisons to help the inmates. Not saying Vipassana is perfect or that Goenka is but it's an example how to use power in a "conscious" way.

So, I am neither wealthy, nor am I powerful and other people are shaping the world and its course. And frankly, it bothers me. The most powerful men I know are to a large degrees assholes. Narcissistic, egoistic, manipulating, fake, lying assholes.

Clearly, sth is missing re my "game".

 

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, integral said:

Yeah and it's a wild mess. I need to clean myself up.

Yes but if you do that you will project that "there is is a wild mess who has to be cleaned".

Where i am the solution is in acceptation/love until the duality mess/order becomes obsoletes as a subject, and there you can change of frequency.  

Edited Tuesday at 06:31 PM by Schizophonia

[Breakingthewall]

Sadhguru is the example of that, he manages an empire that moves hundreds of millions, reaches everywhere, and is heard all over the world. It gives me a strange vibe but quite intelligent people follow him and don't doubt his legitimacy. Maybe it's the real deal, who knows.

What is clear is that none of us who speak in this forum is at the necessary level to go out into the world to reveal the truth, still very far from that. If you want to go out into the world, write a book, speak in public, you must be absolutely enlightened, completely. if not you are a fraud and a joke (like most spiritual teachers btw)

Edited Tuesday at 09:06 PM by Breakingthewall

[James123]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

What is clear is that none of us who speak in this forum is at the necessary level to go out into the world to reveal the truth, still very far from that. If you want to go out into the world, write a book, speak in public, you must be absolutely enlightened, completely. if not you are a fraud and a joke (like most spiritual teachers btw)

We do not have an ass to surrender completely, risk everything for consciousness. Prophets has died for it. What I am doing is I have recognize what enlightenment is and having fun with illusion. These people, realized that top of that they still chase to spread to world. I still don't know why.

[Da77en]

7 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Sadhguru is the example of that, he manages an empire that moves hundreds of millions, reaches everywhere, and is heard all over the world. It gives me a strange vibe but quite intelligent people follow him and don't doubt his legitimacy. Maybe it's the real deal, who knows.

What is clear is that none of us who speak in this forum is at the necessary level to go out into the world to reveal the truth, still very far from that. If you want to go out into the world, write a book, speak in public, you must be absolutely enlightened, completely. if not you are a fraud and a joke (like most spiritual teachers btw)

Sadhguru is pretty legit but he still has some work to do if he wants to have more presence in the west. I agree that it's important to be evolved before you take action in the world it's just that the religious and materialist type people are doing it for a long time and they have pretty distorted understandings of life and thus we are dealing with these unhealthy societal structures. Spirituality has been repressed and is just starting to see light in the modern age because of improvements in information exchange, technology, etc.

Edited Tuesday at 09:13 PM by Da77en

[Breakingthewall]

5 minutes ago, James123 said:

We do not have an ass to surrender completely, risk everything for consciousness. Prophets has died for it. What I am doing is I have recognize what enlightenment is and having fun with illusion. These people, realized that top of that they still chase to spread to world. I still don't know why.

Maybe in some point a revelation comes to you, and you see clearly and without any doubt that you have to explain to others how to open themselves to the real, or maybe not. You don't need to be a martyr, just channel the truth, don't be a fraud

5 minutes ago, Da77en said:

Sadhguru is pretty legit but he still has some work to do if he wants to have more presence in the west.

Yes he talk very indian way, that's why there is some weird feeling with him 

 

6 minutes ago, Da77en said:

agree that it's important to be evolved before you take action in the world

Imo you have to be absolutely enlightened, and maybe no human in the world is. Maybe it's something that has to arrive, maybe not in this time, maybe yes. The human mind is evolving fast, let's see what happens 

[James123]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Maybe in some point a revelation comes to you, and you see clearly and without any doubt that you have to explain to others how to open themselves to the real, or maybe not. You don't need to be a martyr, just channel the truth, don't be a fraud

The thing is there is no others nor me. Just a game, not even, because game has purpose. Just a play. 

[Da77en]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Imo you have to be absolutely enlightened, and maybe no human in the world is. Maybe it's something that has to arrive, maybe not in this time, maybe yes. The human mind is evolving fast, let's see what happens 

Yes, its very exciting times right now.

The great thing about spirituality is it's not someone's invention or ideology. If you start deconstructing any distorted, fear based ideas of life you become spiritual because that's life's natural state. The religions of this world and various other misunderstands society has accumulated for thousands of years are what need to be confronted and let go of if we want a healthy society and planet.

Certain stereotypes of "spiritual people" have been created which might cause people to turn away from it and go back to the materialist and religious states. The accurate vibration of spirituality is unconditional love, ecstasy, and other aspects of ones true nature, any other association doesn't do it justice from my perspective.

Materialistic and religious paradigms are constrictions and distortions within the overall playing field of “spirituality”.

Edited Tuesday at 10:29 PM by Da77en

[James123]

6 hours ago, ChrisZoZo said:

Where’s the joke. Please explain. 

Buddha left the kingdom, Jesus died on cross, Muhammed died within a tent. Which power? Money? They are all poor as f... Mohammed spent his wife's entire money for religion. Not gaining for just giving. Jesus let them sacrifice himself on the cross for truth. Buddha left his kingdom and went to forest. 

[ChrisZoZo]

4 hours ago, integral said:

12 hours ago, ChrisZoZo said:

@integral good post man I feel you when people oppose your views when you have a good point. 

lmaoo you got to get comfortable with opposition if you want to play the game at a world-class level. 

Hmm certainly better than before but a few down votes and I hate earth hahah.