Sadguru thinks Trump will be better for peace and cause less war.

[lostingenosmaze]

1 hour ago, MsNobody said:

@BlackPhil to see the value of the Spiral Dynamics model you need to have some yellow in you, otherwise you will judge it as useless. 

To see the value of this model you need to have this value within this model

Turtles all the way down...

[kray]

13 hours ago, enchanted said:

 

This video is garbage. The editors created some random title for this video (most likely to get clicks), and I’m pretty sure Sadhguru never mentions trump in the whole video. All he says is “stand behind the leader you elect” or something like that. Pretty sure the channel that made this video is a fan club channel.

[PurpleTree]

48 minutes ago, Consept said:

This is how I heard it  I don't think he's endorsing Trump or anything, he's just looking at it pragmatically 

He did say America must stop wars and Trump is running on stopping those wars imor something along those lines.

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Behind the scenes of the Trump campaign.

 

[Consept]

45 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Behind the scenes of the Trump campaign.

This is actually scary, i have seen it before, but its like you would think when hes tweeting its emotional and hes just saying whatever, but its actually very calculated, he knows exactly what hes doing and they effects of it and hes not emotional at all

[Gennadiy1981]

16 hours ago, Buck Edwards said:

Your personal attacks aren't appropriate. 

Sadguru is stage turquoise and Leo himself said so. Rena, you and others are hypnotized and you need to get out of that trance. You divide the world in those who like Trump and those who hate Trump. Those who like him must be stupid and vise versa. That is not the case, there are many intelligent people who also like Trump and vise versa. 
 

Actually I am listening to this video, Sadguru makes a lot of sense, this is a very deep video actually, and the more I think about this election, I realize how great it was. I actually start seeing that America is going into different more positive direction. 

[Terell Kirby]

2 minutes ago, Gennadiy1981 said:

That is not the case, there are many intelligent people who also like Trump and vise versa. 

The definition of intelligence is highly subjective, doesn’t span across all domains. One can be intelligent spiritually and in other domains, but completely in the dark about global politics/ideology and its effects on systems.

People who voted Trump are not “evil” on some made up moral basis. But they did something abhorrent and fundamentally irresponsible by ushering a low integrity, narcissistic leader into the White House. Whether you judge that as good or bad is up to you, but it doesn’t help to be lost in fantasies about what’s going on, and how survival, corruption and ego are at play.

[Atb210201]

Also Gurudev?

Huh...

[Applegarden8]

16 hours ago, Buck Edwards said:

Sadhguru is stage blue. All these bearded crocodiles all stage Blue will vote for trump. 

I will never stop laughing at this kind of "self development" which arrives at absolutely nothing.

[Joshe]

18 hours ago, Ishanga said:

Or its simply that they didn't want to Test Trumps unpredictability and possibility that he may go overboard and they can't deal with that, so hence they keep quiet until he was voted out, then they did their thing..

AI can be made to make up any conclusion, doesn't mean squat! Use Your Mind Existence gave You, quit depending on a machine that is completely manipulated by Your ego and beliefs! 

Sorry, that's not gonna cut it either. 

[Joshe]

3 hours ago, Atb210201 said:

Also Gurudev?

Huh...

It seems this highly developed spiritual guru has fallen for propaganda.

Even if it were true, he attacks the most fringe elements of the blue side, which are obviously absurd, but they're not prevalent nor very popular outside of universities. 

It's pretty bad when even modern day spiritual gurus are hocking right-wing propaganda. Spewing this nonsense, which can easily be verified as false, to a large crowd is irresponsible and really points to a lack of concern about what is true. If I were following him, I'd be so disappointed by this epistemic failure that I'd have to stop.

Edited Sunday at 09:23 PM by Joshe

[Atb210201]

11 minutes ago, Joshe said:

It seems this highly developed spiritual guru has fallen for propaganda.

Even if it were true, he attacks the most fringe elements of the blue side, which are obviously absurd, but they're not prevalent nor very popular outside of universities. 

It's pretty bad when even modern day spiritual gurus are hocking right-wing propaganda. Spewing this nonsense, which can easily be verified as false, to a large crowd is irresponsible and really points to a lack of concern about what is true. If I were following him, I'd be so disappointed by this epistemic failure that I'd have to stop.

Don't know about the informations said I'm not following that news and I'm also not a fanatic about Gurudev or any other Guru so thanks if this is the case for pointing that out.

But I still love him anyways even if this is the case as you said because he has helped me so much in my journey and given me so much wisdom on my way.

It's OK if he has made a mistake for me, but as you said he must be more accurate if that's the case.

[Joshe]

1 hour ago, Atb210201 said:

Don't know about the informations said I'm not following that news and I'm also not a fanatic about Gurudev or any other Guru so thanks if this is the case for pointing that out.

But I still love him anyways even if this is the case as you said because he has helped me so much in my journey and given me so much wisdom on my way.

It's OK if he has made a mistake for me, but as you said he must be more accurate if that's the case.

Yeah, I'm sure he's a great guy, it's just disappointing that someone like him would contribute to spreading false propaganda. 

[Da77en]

I've always sensed that Sadhguru had some sort of support for Trump because he has the same kind of controversial vibe that Trump has, that's why Sadhguru has had all these controversies throughout the years. Sadhguru also has a very conservative style of teaching spirituality which could be influencing his support for Trump.

No offense to Sadhguru, I love him, but he deliberately chooses to be controversial. I've heard him say that it's his karma that he needs to work through it but it doesn't take decades to let something like that go from my perspective. He could let it go within a couple of months, he just has very conservative attitudes towards spirituality which may be leading him believe that it has to take a long time.

Edited Sunday at 11:19 PM by Da77en

[Lyubov]

21 hours ago, Ishanga said:

Start another journal, talk about Yourself more, think about yourself more, go down the spiral of me, myself and I, how does it feel to never recover from this dilemma of just me, myself and I, does it work for You? Probably not, since you are still journaling and complaining and going thru the same cycles, and then You say someone that is the exact opposite of this is a certain way, what credibility to You have so anyone should put any faith into Your judgement, when You can't even get thru a day without self judgement when that is the most egoic thing one can do?? 

Sadhguru is for sure on top of the list or even on the list of the most Enlightened beings alive today or ever was, how do any of us who are not even close to this sort of realization, how can we judge... Even looking at the physical activity of the Man, we can't even judge on that simple survival level, since none of Us have done 0.5% of what he had done to help save the planet and the ppl on the planet on the physical level, never mind the Spiritual Level...

I disagree. It is impossible to compare your spirituality to anyone else. Do not fall into this guru trap. Sahdguru is just a guy teaching spirituality and if it helps you, I'm happy for you. But don't fall into this trap. It's impossible to be "more enlightened" than anyone else. 

[Buck Edwards]

8 hours ago, Gennadiy1981 said:

Sadguru is stage turquoise and Leo himself said so. Rena, you and others are hypnotized and you need to get out of that trance. You divide the world in those who like Trump and those who hate Trump. Those who like him must be stupid and vise versa. That is not the case, there are many intelligent people who also like Trump and vise versa. 
 

Actually I am listening to this video, Sadguru makes a lot of sense, this is a very deep video actually, and the more I think about this election, I realize how great it was. I actually start seeing that America is going into different more positive direction. 

And what does Leo do? You don't have a problem with that? Have you read Leo's quote? 

[Ajay0]

Sadghguru has a right to his opinion.

Even American intellectuals like Noam Chomsky and Christopher Hedges have been critical of US-Nato's expansion to the very borders of Russia, wilfully ignoring their promise to Gorbachev, and which provoked the invasion.

 

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_218172.htm?selectedLocale=en

Nato secretary general, Jens Stoltenberg admitted and boasted about nato provoking Putin to invade, ignoring the heavy casualties of the war that followed, and focussed only on the expansion of NATO inspite of the threat of nuclear war and holocaust. Defense companies share values have increased manifold after the war, and I am suspecting that this has been a money making scheme from the start.
 

“War is rich old men protecting their property by sending middle class and lower class young men off to die. It always has been.” ~ George Carlin

Edited Monday at 05:19 AM by Ajay0

[Sea]

On 10/11/2024 at 1:26 AM, Buck Edwards said:

Sadhguru is stage blue. All these bearded crocodiles all stage Blue will vote for trump. 

If Sadhguru is considered stage blue, then Spiral Dynamics is nonsense.

At this rate this forum will not consider anyone to be Tier 2 except for Leo, lol.

[Buck Edwards]

44 minutes ago, Sea said:

If Sadhguru is considered stage blue, then Spiral Dynamics is nonsense.

At this rate this forum will not consider anyone to be Tier 2 except for Leo, lol.

Anyone who supports Trump is not even Tier 1, let alone Tier 2.

 

[Ajay0]

13 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

Anyone who supports Trump is not even Tier 1, let alone Tier 2.

 

What if that is what the capitalist own media narratives say so that they can keep creating wars around the world to bag expensive orders for their weaponry , without anyone getting smarter or wiser ! They have even dismantled democratic governments and replaced them with authoritarian ones if it fitted their economic agenda.

I would ask you to exercise your own judgement rather than be superficially manipulated by external conditioning .

Edited Monday at 07:23 AM by Ajay0