Now Aubrey Marcus … what is going on?!

[Joshe]

Tens of thousands more influencers will follow suit. We’re entering the largest mass delusion of our time, and even spineless fools who voted Kamala will cave to it. It’s a whole new era. 

[PurpleTree]

12 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

Antivaxx

Ok that’s very bad.

I’m very very very (very) much a fan of some vaxxies and less so or critical of some others.

[Joshe]

18 minutes ago, What Am I said:

I apologize if this post comes off as brash. I'm just surprised it was such a question, even though none of them openly stated their allegiance. It's interesting that many on this list were previously solidly on the left.

It’s called selling out, which is profitable. 

[PurpleTree]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

All these people are an embarassment to mankind. Every one of them.

Don't let them gaslight you with their bullshit. They chase fame, success, and money, not truth.

History will record all these people as buffoons.

Do you think it’s all because survival?

[Recursoinominado]

Owen Cook, aka RSD Tyler endorsing Trump.

[What Am I]

3 minutes ago, Joshe said:

It’s called selling out, which is profitable. 

Well, that is an oft-repeated theory. Those greedy fools just love the money too much.

I must say though, I'm not as convinced, and I think it's a disservice to yourselves to be so sure that's the reason.

[BlackPhil]

Everyone outside of your progressive-echochamber have been watching the MSM lies, propaganda and manipulation being exposed over and over in real time during the latest years. Meanwhile you have blocked out all outside voices and kept dismissing them as fascist. Refusing to see the truth.

Yes you are the ones who are on the more deluded side here. Sure the MAGA-people are deluded aswell but it wasnt them who caused Trump to win. It was the middle-people who got sick and tired of the lies.

They twisted Trumps words constantly; when he said he would protect women even if they didnt want it, they twisted it to him saying that he "would do to women whatever he wanted, whether they liked it or not".

When he said Liz Cheney should know what its like to be in the midst of war, they twisted it and said he had called for her execution.

They called his rally a nazi-hate rally, even tho it was alot of jews and minorities attending.

All the lies were just absurd. But I understand you wouldnt have seen that if you only watched MSM and left-leaning media online.

The list of lies goes on and on. Why would you keep on listening to people and media who have been PROVEN to CONSTANTLY lie, manipulate and twist words?

 

Edited November 9 by BlackPhil

[zazen]

If people started moving from the right to the left would we start questioning their sanity the same way?

The lefts failure is due to the same false utopian premises they base their movement on much like how communism fails in the real world when reality grinds its operational gears, and human behaviour ie incentives prevent the outcomes their good intentions hope to achieve. 

When we put equality over and above quality, and sacrifice merit on the altar of equity - where do we expect people with talent or value are going to go? Where it’s valued.

Every time we try to enforce equality through top down control, we create a new hierarchy - a bureaucratic aristocracy who try to equalise human nature - as if flattening mountain peaks is even possible.

The competent people, the innovators and the mavericks won’t sit around waiting to be sacrificed on the altar of equity. They’ll leave for places merit still matters. It's just basic human nature, like water finding its way around a dam.

The irony is: The more force we use trying to make everyone equal, the more inequality we create between places that embrace this ideology and places that don't. Just like the brain drain phenomena of geopolitics, except on a internal political scale. 

Edited November 9 by zazen

[Joshe]

5 minutes ago, What Am I said:

Well, that is an oft-repeated theory. Those greedy fools just love the money too much.

I must say though, I'm not as convinced, and I think it's a disservice to yourselves to be so sure that's the reason.

Can you tell me why Lindsey Graham and JD Vance changed their tune about Trump? They came out the gate with absolute disgust for him and now they lick his boot in front of crowds while he mocks them. I need to know you can see basic reality. If you can explain this very obvious thing, and if you can then acknowledge it’s a common phenomenon in Trump world, as evidenced by the entire Republican Party bending the knee and kissing the ring out of fear Trump ends their career with a Tweet, then maybe you can use this to see how pervasive this phenomenon is. It doesn’t just apply to politicians. 

[Recursoinominado]

22 minutes ago, BlackPhil said:

It was the middle-people who got sick and tired of the lies brainwashed by right-wing propaganda.

 

[BlackPhil]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

All these people are an embarassment to mankind. Every one of them.

Don't let them gaslight you with their bullshit. They chase fame, success, and money, not truth.

History will record all these people as buffoons.

Dont talk about these people chasing fame, success and money instead of truth, when it was the democrats who desperatly had every narcissistic Hollywood-celeb they could find go up and endorse Kamala publicly.

That stunt and those people were embarrassing if anything.

I advice people to trust their gut-feeling when it comes to who they find more trustworthy and less corrupt; people like Aubrey Marcus, Russel Brand etc. Or the list of Hollywood-celebs and corporate media who endorsed Kamala.

 

Edited November 9 by BlackPhil

[How to be wise]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

All these people are an embarassment to mankind. Every one of them.

Don't let them gaslight you with their bullshit. They chase fame, success, and money, not truth.

History will record all these people as buffoons.

Trump derangement syndrome.

[What Am I]

42 minutes ago, Joshe said:

Can you tell me why Lindsey Graham and JD Vance changed their tune about Trump? They came out the gate with absolute disgust for him and now they lick his boot in front of crowds while he mocks them. I need to know you can see basic reality. If you can explain this very obvious thing, and if you can then acknowledge it’s a common phenomenon in Trump world, as evidenced by the entire Republican Party bending the knee and kissing the ring out of fear Trump ends their career with a Tweet, then maybe you can use this to see how pervasive this phenomenon is. It doesn’t just apply to politicians. 

Sure, I'll give it a try. But as a disclaimer, I haven't historically followed Lindsey Graham or JD Vance at all, so it'll be difficult to map out their motivations with any real accuracy. I've only seen short clips of Graham, and only the Rogan podcast for Vance.

For Lindsey Graham, based on what I know about his warlike tendencies, I would guess he's not actually in line with Trump, and he's in fact still beholden to the previous interests in which he shared allegiance. You could call it neocons, globalists, or whatever. It's my best guess that he's putting on a show, and his purpose is to curb Trump wherever possible and guide his actions in the "correct" direction.

For JD Vance, I've seen enough to believe his opinion of Trump has likely changed from what it was in 2016. Where previously he was viewing Trump as the new Hitler, he now sees him as the right person to fill a very niche role, which he has now successfully filled. If you think about it, a change of heart such as that is not so difficult to imagine. How many people do you know who are now of a different mind compared to 2016? Let's take this recent election as an example. Many voters cast their ballots for Trump who undoubtedly would not have before. Did they all do it out of monetary greed, like Aubrey Marcus, as you say? Or were they all just fooled by Trump's hypnosis? Maybe, or maybe not. But either way, I believe their opinion of Trump has genuinely changed with time, which I believe Vance's has as well.

Edited November 9 by What Am I

[Thought Art]

Makes me wonder what information people are seeing.

Edited November 9 by Thought Art

[Moutushi]

https://x.com/SutcliffeDavid/status/1827441662315909256

 

Edited November 9 by Moutushi

[What Am I]

Here's another potential mind-blower. I'm fairly certain Rogan et al. voted for Trump in 2020 as well, despite them not saying it out loud. It was a more dangerous time to "come out," so to speak.

[BlackPhil]

No wonder people get hysterical when they listen to lunatics like this scaring them... He's seriously telling people they will get arrested just for being gay/minority because Trump won.

People actually believe these ideas. They actually believe Trump is Hitler 2.0..

It's scary to see propaganda working on people.

Yes your country might go into chaos now when Trump won, but that will be caused by the division and people going nuts because they believe insane lies. Not because of Trumps actual politics.

Edited November 9 by BlackPhil

[Joshe]

@What Am I Look, if you want to toss out the phenomenon I'm talking about, you won't see reality. You will end up with justifications like you just gave. The phenomenon of people looking out for their own best interest by bending the knee and keeping quiet else their careers be ended is not only real, it's in full effect and is the very mechanism that allows Trump to reign supreme over the Republican Party. This is not a matter of opinion. 

People are driven by the knowledge that by stepping out of line, Trump could end their career with a single tweet. What does this manifest? People swallowing their own beliefs, creating an echo chamber where dissent is squashed, and loyalty is rewarded, no matter the cost to integrity. They kiss his ass like you wouldn't believe. It would make you sick to see it, which I'm guessing you haven't. 

This phenomenon that's been on full display for several years also maps over to the influencer space. Why do you think it took Kyle K so long to criticize Joe Rogan over the years?

Now, WHAT IF... you had the bright idea that instead of criticizing Rogan, you kissed his ass and buttered him up... might that be profitable. Kyle could have done that, but he chose integrity instead. Many people would kiss his ass. 

Anyway, here's an example:

 

 

 

[Nemra]

@BlackPhil, you share Brand's video and call Vaush a lunatic!?

[Lews Therin]

Man, i was about to right a post just like this one, but of a person a personally admired a lot, Liv Boeree.

She wrote this on her Substack:

https://livboeree.substack.com/p/reflections-on-the-election

This tilted me so much when i read it, she was one of the people that got me interested in systems thinking, she has a whole damn podcast about it where she has interviewed Schmacktenberger and other great thinkers.

I almost lost my apetite, and it is seriously making me rethink lots of what i believe.
She based her arguments on the idea that the Dems wanted the country to be humble, whereas Trump represented pride and boldness. She further elaborates that she considers humbleness to be associated with shame, which is supposedly one of the lowest emotions and can lead to envy and attempts to bash on those who actually try to improve the world.

(i don't particularly disagree with shame being a horrible thing to feel, though i think that the model she presented is BS, as it places anger way above shame, and anger can very well just be a cover up, and therefore can be "lesser" than shame)

How could someone who clearly has a lot of tier 2 in her claim that being narcisistically pridefull is better than being humble? It almost smells like accelerationism to me
This made me question if i am just morally lucky? The Dems clearly have a clearer big picture view, but how can someone who knows so much about "big pictures" like Liv fall for it? Shouldn't i have also fallen then? Did i resist just because my mind was already colonized by the other side?