I don't see meaning in life anymore

[Nemra]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Life has an absolute meaning. The meaning is: existing. No more meaning is needed.

You just gave one meaning to life and excluded others.

There isn't anything that can't not exist from your perspective. So, life was already about existing.

[Breakingthewall]

There is something paradoxical. There is a phase of the spiritual path that is absolute nihilism. You must really, deeply and without a doubt realize that reality is nothing, that it is absolutely empty, to realize later that it is absolutely everything and that is absolutely full. It's totally obvious: you are, then this being encompass the infinity. Nothing can stop or limit it because there is nothing else. You are the totality. 

Sometimes you get absolutely empty, it's like your body dissapear and there is only a black hole without bottom, nothing. This could be felt as extremely sad, terrific. It's necessary to don't scape of this void, don't try to fill it with mind, be it, open yourself to it. Then what you are can be perceived, the pure being. That's enlightenment, and can't be remembered, just be opened to it now. Then if it closes you haven't it anymore, it's the same if you had it 10 min ago. 

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, Nemra said:

You just gave one meaning to life and excluded others.

There isn't anything that can't not exist from your perspective. So, life was already about existing.

1 minute ago, Nemra said:

 

Non existence doesn't exist, then only existence exist. The existence is absolute meaning, it exists. Its total. Other meanings are what they call maya, just illusion. The only real meaning is existing 

 

[Nemra]

30 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Non existence doesn't exist, then only existence exist.

That's what I said.

30 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The existence is absolute meaning, it exists. Its total. Other meanings are what they call maya, just illusion. The only real meaning is existing.

Existence exists and it couldn't have been otherwise.

Every meaning is as real as the other, because they exist. There isn't only one real meaning.

I'll stop, as this is derailing from the topic.

Edited November 9 by Nemra

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Nemra said:

That's what I said.

Existence exists and it couldn't have been otherwise.

Every meaning is as real as the other, because they exist. There isn't only one real meaning.

Well, if you say that all the meanings ultimately are existence in any facet, then agree, all the meanings are real. Then for example saying that the meaning of human life is make the humankind to evolve is as real that saying that the meaning of human life is killing people, it depends of the case. That's similar than saying that human life has not a definite meaning, then the only meaning is existing. 

We could perceive easily our strong bias if we try to affirm truly: the meaning of life is torturing kids. But this is a facet of existing. Existence is wild, it's everything. 

Then we could say that Maya is just to make differentiations. Torture kids is the same than love kids from an absolute perspective. Both exist. Do you perceive how all your conditioning scream trying to see it? Me yes. 

[Breakingthewall]

45 minutes ago, Nemra said:

I'll stop, as this is derailing from the topic.

The topic is that the op doesn't see meaning in life. He's wrong, if you get deep in the reality you go through the nihilism and arrive to the absolute meaning: existing. There is no more meaning needed. This is the absolute, the enlightenment, the infinite power. It's not knowing with your mind that existence exist as something logical analizing the facts, it's being open to the existence and perceive it's nature. It's nature is existing, and this is the absolute meaning , it's like a light, that's why they call it enlightenment. Everything is enlightened, full of the light of existence. But we are humans and have a conditioning. This conditioning implies see everything that is against our survival as dark. Then, we get veiled,.it's inevitable 

Edited November 9 by Breakingthewall

[Nemra]

@Breakingthewall, I was talking about any meaning that could ever exist from your perspective.

From your perspective, a meaning might be not real, but for the other it is, because it's not your life. Whether it's healthy, toxic, etc., is another matter.

But I was talking about not focusing on life's meaning to be existence but more about things that you are curious about, interested in, etc.

23 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

He's wrong, if you get deep in the reality you go through the nihilism and arrive to the absolute meaning: existing.

Nihilism is true for him. Because it exists.

It's true that existence exists, which you can use to give your life a meaning.

Edited November 9 by Nemra

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, Nemra said:

Nihilism is true for him. Because it exists.

Nihilism is just an opinion, like saying: I think that human life is shit. It's relative, just a feeling, an idea. What is absolute is the existence of this feeling or idea. 

Absolute meaning is that existence exist, it's not an opinion, it's absolute, it's not mental, you can be open to it and this is enlightenment. Enlightenment like Buddha and Ramakrishna, there is nothing else, it's everything. 

[Nemra]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

Nihilism is just an opinion, like saying: I think that human life is shit. It's relative.

No, it's not an opinion.

You, just like the nihilist, are making a meaning out of a truth.

[khalifa]

enjoy the privilege of being alive, cherry pick your own meaning of what you want to get done in this limited body till your death

mine's pretty simple retire early and travel to a few countries, spending more time in nature greenery

[gettoefl]

15 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

Why and what’s the other direction?

That I needn't have a one track mind

Where the winds lead me is good

I trust that maybe I am doing this not for me but for you

Edited November 10 by gettoefl

[Yimpa]

11 hours ago, Nemra said:

I'll stop, as this is derailing from the topic.

No, don’t stop. We must keep up the fight. We can’t let Trump get away with his shenanigans! 

[Javfly33]

On 9/11/2024 at 0:54 AM, Scholar said:

The more clear headed I am, the more it seems like life is just a grand delusion, a distraction of the inevitable impermanence of ones own existence.

 

This has been on my mind recently. Everything is impermanent, it is clear to me now. But this creates a deep, existential lack of motivation for life itself. I don't care to pursue anything at this point. The whole game of life seems silly, redundant.

Everyone is getting hot and bothered about this and about that, but the fate of us all is the same no matter what we do in life, no matter what kind of political structure you will create, no matter how much well being or how much suffering you will experience, in the end there is the one that makes us all equal, that turns our lives, experiences, memories and all our meaning into dust.

Everything that will be gained will be lost, every joy and every pain is fleeting. I have no interest in romantic pursuits, career pursuits, life pursuits. I have no real desire for pleasure even, it seems fundamentally hollow. Life seems absurd to me.

 

This is a novel experience to me, but it seems to be truthful. It is as if a deep delusion, a coping mechanism had been lifted. Nothing matters.

That´s a good realization.

Enlightment is only possible when you realize the game that has been sold to you can never feel satisfying. 
 

ONLY THEN you will really start to look within for answers 

Edited November 10 by Javfly33

[Atb210201]

Nothing is meaningless and nothing will ever be lost.

Everything is meaningful and will be kept meaningful forever.

Why would anything be lost in the Universe?

Do you really think the is a place called lost?

There is no such place.

Nothing is ever lost.

Keep doing meaningful work.

[DianaFr]

On 09/11/2024 at 1:54 AM, Scholar said:

The more clear headed I am, the more it seems like life is just a grand delusion, a distraction of the inevitable impermanence of ones own existence.

 

This has been on my mind recently. Everything is impermanent, it is clear to me now. But this creates a deep, existential lack of motivation for life itself. I don't care to pursue anything at this point. The whole game of life seems silly, redundant.

Everyone is getting hot and bothered about this and about that, but the fate of us all is the same no matter what we do in life, no matter what kind of political structure you will create, no matter how much well being or how much suffering you will experience, in the end there is the one that makes us all equal, that turns our lives, experiences, memories and all our meaning into dust.

Everything that will be gained will be lost, every joy and every pain is fleeting. I have no interest in romantic pursuits, career pursuits, life pursuits. I have no real desire for pleasure even, it seems fundamentally hollow. Life seems absurd to me.

 

This is a novel experience to me, but it seems to be truthful. It is as if a deep delusion, a coping mechanism had been lifted. Nothing matters.

I bet god once had the same realization - it's effing lonely around here, things have no meaning anymore, I better split myself and create the Other for me to interact with 😄

I don't know, maybe you should not look for meaning. Usefulness will do. Your existence might be fleeting, but since you're here and while you're here, you can make yourself useful. You will always exist in somebody's memories and in your contributions to this world. Things are not only turned into dust but also created. It's a matter of perspective.