Be careful how you speak about trump etc

[B222]

Hate, attack, blame, etc causes resistance and it/they might come back to bite you. Extreme danger ‼️ 😬
Love, peace, unity. 🙏🏻🩵 we’re all one.

 

Watch Leo’s videos “conscious politics” and “understanding war and conflict.” And whatever else others may suggest. 
 

 

 

https://youtu.be/tZl1oRncFS4?si=MfVmq2fDTfoqLPBv

 

 

Edited November 8 by B222

[Joshe]

This is very true. Look at where all previous efforts got us. They failed spectacularly. Denouncing Trumpism should stop. At this point, silence is the best teacher because it provides them opportunity for recognition. They'll have a hard time recognizing anything if we're filling up their psychic space with what they perceive as attacks. It just makes them double down. 

We all know at this point who and what he is. There should be no more trying to convince people. 

Just to clarify though, I'm not saying it should be ignored and I don't think discussions should stop, but we shouldn't be trying to convince them because it just makes them stronger. 

Edited November 8 by Joshe

[Staples]

1 hour ago, B222 said:

Love, peace, unity. 🙏🏻🩵 we’re all one.

Trump and his Imps don't share your hippy sentiments. They will fuck you.

If you stop calling the devil out on his bullshit he will fuck you and the world harder.

If you were in the jungle, you would let a jaguar slaughter you with this attitude. We're all one man, let the jaguar have some lunch!

Edited November 8 by Staples

[hoodrow trillson]

Oh my God I LOVE Trump!!  🥰💜💖💓🙏  *person loses their rights*  Peace Love & Unity!  Live Laugh Love!

[Frylock]

Ok cool. Let them come to my house. I got a little present waiting for them 🔫

[Joshe]

39 minutes ago, Staples said:

Trump and his Imps don't share your hippy sentiments. They will fuck you.

If you stop calling the devil out on his bullshit he will fuck you and the world harder.

If you were in the jungle, you would let a jaguar slaughter you with this attitude. We're all one man, let the jaguar have some lunch!

Edited 34 minutes ago by Staples

I don't agree with OP's position but they have a good point about not calling them out. 

It's not just Trumpists in their camp now. We could wind up in a situation where 70% of the US population is defending the Trump admin the way white evangelicals and racist nutjobs have been for the past 8 years. The movement has many new members and now with the Rogan endorsement, many other influencers will follow suit, which means their numbers will continue to grow. 

If we call it out, it'll only entrench their new members, just like the first time around.

If they didn't pickup so many new members, I'd probably still advocate for calling them out, but it seems like a horrible idea now. We should just keep quiet and hope the new members see for themselves, IMO. 

 

[Staples]

28 minutes ago, Joshe said:

If they didn't pickup so many new members, I'd probably still advocate for calling them out, but it seems like a horrible idea now. We should just keep quiet and hope the new members see for themselves, IMO. 

Most who voted for Trump don't have the capacity to admit when they are wrong. They can't handle cognitive dissonance.

Staying quiet only enables such people to bury themselves deeper into ignorance. Calling out Trump doesn't save those people; it's saves the vulnerable people from falling under the spell.

Edited November 9 by Staples

[What Am I]

Ok, so first of all, I promise I don't watch The View, lol. I just saw this clip going around, and I thought it'd be an interesting opportunity to see examples of different ways the election loss can be handled.

Which method do you guys think is optimal for aiming towards future improvements?

 

Edited November 9 by What Am I

[Inliytened1]

55 minutes ago, Joshe said:

I don't agree with OP's position but they have a good point about not calling them out. 

It's not just Trumpists in their camp now. We could wind up in a situation where 70% of the US population is defending the Trump admin the way white evangelicals and racist nutjobs have been for the past 8 years. The movement has many new members and now with the Rogan endorsement, many other influencers will follow suit, which means their numbers will continue to grow. 

If we call it out, it'll only entrench their new members, just like the first time around.

If they didn't pickup so many new members, I'd probably still advocate for calling them out, but it seems like a horrible idea now. We should just keep quiet and hope the new members see for themselves, IMO. 

 

It's going to be really interesting how this plays out...don't you hate how things take so long...wars..politics...it takes forever to play out!  If only we had a looking glass and could see the future..that would be a trip! 

Edited November 9 by Inliytened1

[What Am I]

There's something pretty interesting going on. I'm seeing a lot of conversations among Democrats where some want to look inward to see where positive changes can be made, and others seem to want to just double down on previous ways. It's quite a sharp contrast.

I predict the possibility that at least some of the Dems wanting introspection may start a process of peeling off the party as well, assuming common ground and a unified strategy proves impossible.

Just a thought, I could be way off.

 

Edited November 9 by What Am I

[Average Actualizer]

4 hours ago, Staples said:

Trump and his Imps don't share your hippy sentiments. They will fuck you.

If you stop calling the devil out on his bullshit he will fuck you and the world harder.

If you were in the jungle, you would let a jaguar slaughter you with this attitude. We're all one man, let the jaguar have some lunch!

"Leo Gura's Blog" ahh post 😂😂😂

You Leo replicas on this forum are so cringe, form an opinion of your own with a style of writing of your own just for once, don't just parrot him all the time 😭😭

[Staples]

2 hours ago, Average Actualizer said:

"Leo Gura's Blog" ahh post 😂😂😂

You Leo replicas on this forum are so cringe, form an opinion of your own with a style of writing of your own just for once, don't just parrot him all the time 😭😭

People can share similar opinions. Shocking, I know. I often use his language because I know you know what it means.

[Joshe]

3 hours ago, What Am I said:

There's something pretty interesting going on. I'm seeing a lot of conversations among Democrats where some want to look inward to see where positive changes can be made, and others seem to want to just double down on previous ways. It's quite a sharp contrast.

I predict the possibility that at least some of the Dems wanting introspection may start a process of peeling off the party as well, assuming common ground and a unified strategy proves impossible.

Just a thought, I could be way off.

 

All of this “let’s reflect on what happened” is either idiocy or posturing. Anyone with half a brain knows what happened. Unwitting voters were fed propaganda and they ate it up. I see a lot of politicians and mainstream media staying as far away from the truth as possible, and for very obvious reasons. If a politician went on CNN and said the voters were unwitting victims of propaganda, their career might end. So of course they’re going to say things like “what did the we do wrong to lose like this? “.

The only thing to figure out is how to combat deception and how to deal with unwitting voters falling victim to propaganda. Data scientist are currently analyzing this stuff and when the data comes out, it will confirm what I’m saying. Many independent media outlets are acknowledging it, and they can because they aren’t beholden to stakeholders like the mainstream. Even Bernie can’t say the truth of what happened. 

[Buck Edwards]

13 hours ago, Frylock said:

Ok cool. Let them come to my house. I got a little present waiting for them 🔫

Haha. 

[Davino]

I'm more worried about how Trump speaks

The most sane quote 4:10

Edited November 9 by Davino

[What Am I]

6 hours ago, Joshe said:

All of this “let’s reflect on what happened” is either idiocy or posturing. Anyone with half a brain knows what happened. Unwitting voters were fed propaganda and they ate it up. I see a lot of politicians and mainstream media staying as far away from the truth as possible, and for very obvious reasons. If a politician went on CNN and said the voters were unwitting victims of propaganda, their career might end. So of course they’re going to say things like “what did the we do wrong to lose like this? “.

The only thing to figure out is how to combat deception and how to deal with unwitting voters falling victim to propaganda. Data scientist are currently analyzing this stuff and when the data comes out, it will confirm what I’m saying. Many independent media outlets are acknowledging it, and they can because they aren’t beholden to stakeholders like the mainstream. Even Bernie can’t say the truth of what happened. 

Right, sounds like you'd fall on that end of the spectrum in terms of the debate then.

[B222]

@Staples I understand this. Really feels that way, that no matter what is said they’re coming for us anyway… but I think attacks, hate, etc will just make things worse… thankfully for humans we all have love, and are capable of having awakenings/epiphanies etc. how can we try to help them realise love on a broader scale instead of just for their close family and friends? What can we do to induce awakenings so they shift their perspective and want less war, peace, etc? 
 

Leo speaks of it in his war and conflict videos too, about how the highest form of love is indifference and unity. As hard as it is to be indifferent as a human with some of these atrocities, we have to operate from presence imo and not judge the past too much. Instead, how can a better future be built?

And hopefully some nasty plans can be retracted. Probably not but becoming the enemy will make things worse. and could bring a nasty shock to any one individual. Guns are nice but they have bombs😬

 

Also, I think we can point out their devilry without it being a personal attack. 

Edited November 9 by B222

[Joshe]

16 hours ago, Staples said:

Most who voted for Trump don't have the capacity to admit when they are wrong. They can't handle cognitive dissonance.

Staying quiet only enables such people to bury themselves deeper into ignorance. Calling out Trump doesn't save those people; it's saves the vulnerable people from falling under the spell.

It's not about admitting they were wrong. It's about them recognizing the coming reality. If we make them double down in their Trump support, they'd be less likely to recognize it. 

As an added bonus, many of those new people could end up being anti-Trump and they might then turn on the rest of them if we just let them come to it on their own; not by admitting their mistake, but simply be seeing the price of eggs didn't go down or by seeing the lives of their loved ones get worse due to cuts to social programs. 

We'll just create more cultist if we continue warning them. 

[Emotionalmosquito]

On 11/8/2024 at 5:19 PM, Frylock said:

Ok cool. Let them come to my house. I got a little present waiting for them 🔫