The Seeker

[Princess Arabia]

6 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

In absolute sense yes

Ok, and i wouldn't be saying this in a normal conversation it's just we're having a discussion about enlightenment which is thought to bring about the dissolution with the sense of I and bond you with the Absolute. Now, you're saying in the Absolute sense, yeah. Which is it, you want enlightenment or you want enlightenment in the illusory relative world of separation. You guys are joking around. "In the Absolute sense, yea", but still seeks enlightenment in the relative sense. Can't have both.

[Princess Arabia]

I'm on so many threads at once, I'm so fucking confused. The seeker, is enlightenment possible, what is enlightenment, Trump is a joker, the election is rigged, I need to awaken. Lol

[Princess Arabia]

5 Threads hot at the same time. I'm out, time for a break. Gonna go get me some cigs and a black and mild and a beer while you'all enlightened folks debate what enlightenment is. It's the freedom to be able to drink a beer.

Edited November 6 by Princess Arabia

[Breakingthewall]

Not agree, thoughts are a consequence not a cause

[Sugarcoat]

23 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Ok. Thought is time and thought is space whether you agree or not. Why do you think enlightenment is impossible to achieve and you're already that. It's the mind saying it's not. If there was no thought, no one would even be thinking of enlightenment. It's a fucking thought. I'm not enlightened, I don't need to be enlightened for me to be who I already am. It's something the mind made up trying to make sense of itself. All these years on this forum, ever seen someone say they finally got enlightened - only if it's fake news or they believe they are. Osho isn't talking to you. You are talking to you. Same here.

I don’t really know what to respond to this my mind is very blank sometimes 

[Sugarcoat]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Not agree, thoughts are a consequence not a cause

I think similarly 

[Sugarcoat]

20 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Ok, and i wouldn't be saying this in a normal conversation it's just we're having a discussion about enlightenment which is thought to bring about the dissolution with the sense of I and bond you with the Absolute. Now, you're saying in the Absolute sense, yeah. Which is it, you want enlightenment or you want enlightenment in the illusory relative world of separation. You guys are joking around. "In the Absolute sense, yea", but still seeks enlightenment in the relative sense. Can't have both.

I want it in absolute sense but I can’t know what that is because its unknown

[Ishanga]

6 hours ago, Max1993 said:

The seeker is just a pattern of thoughts. Just a bunch of thoughts. There is no seeker. If you keep seeking using thoughts you will stay in a loop. A feeling about a past or future made up story is what you are experiencing now. All of your anxiety right now could be used for Joy. Don't think, and there will be no one who holds the burden of trying to wake up! Ponder that. 

Seeking is not a "bunch of thoughts", all of Us are Seekers, that is why all of Us are here, deny it and then You will be a Hypocrite..

All of Us want to be More than what we are, that can apply to anything, simply just wanting to post an answer or post something original posed as a question, all of this is a form of seeking...

Saying there is no "Seeker" is like saying there is no one posting, that is not True! 

[PurpleTree]

Yes. It’s funny i used to have pride in being a "seeker"

[Max1993]

@Sugarcoat The ego is just a collection of thoughts or chaos that we add to this fresh crisp present moment, if you honestly look around, most of the time nothing is happening. Nothing has ever happened to your awareness, the core was and will always be still. Be That. 

[Max1993]

@PurpleTree Exactly 

[Princess Arabia]

4 hours ago, Ishanga said:

Seeking is not a "bunch of thoughts", all of Us are Seekers, that is why all of Us are here, deny it and then You will be a Hypocrite..

All of Us want to be More than what we are, that can apply to anything, simply just wanting to post an answer or post something original posed as a question, all of this is a form of seeking...

Saying there is no "Seeker" is like saying there is no one posting, that is not True! 

The mind is very tricky. You sly fox you. You know exactly what type of seeking he's referring to. 

[VeganAwake]

4 hours ago, Max1993 said:

The ego is just a collection of thoughts or chaos that we add to this fresh crisp present moment, if you honestly look around, most of the time nothing is happening. Nothing has ever happened to your awareness, the core was and will always be still. Be That. 

Yup,

& there's not even a we that "adds it".....it just seems to happen.

Nothing happens in the sense that there isn't a real individual for something to even happen for....it's an illusion of self awareness.

There's not even anyone to ....Be That 😳

❤️ 

Edited November 7 by VeganAwake

[Max1993]

@Ishanga Nothing has ever happened. Even "a happening" is completely dependent upon thoughts. Notice this. Nothing has ever happened. Nothing will ever happen. Your awareness is always still, the core of you is especially, and basically born 2 seconds ago so to speak, fresh, unchanging. You also have never done anything. Thoughts just happen. You are not the Doer. Source is automatically dreaming at most to find itself, forever. There is no one here watching the movie. Yet the movie is occurring. A thought happening does not mean you are the one generating that thought. The ego can't even feel or see. Only spirit can. The All is experiencing your personal life not the sensation of the intimate personal biographical you. That is just a collection of thoughts on top of the birds chirping. On top of this simple fresh crisp moment present moment. Look around. Nothing is happening. At most a "non-happening" is watching a movie about a happening. A movie about a big "What if?" 

[Ishanga]

1 hour ago, Max1993 said:

@Ishanga Nothing has ever happened. Even "a happening" is completely dependent upon thoughts. Notice this. Nothing has ever happened. Nothing will ever happen. Your awareness is always still, the core of you is especially, and basically born 2 seconds ago so to speak, fresh, unchanging. You also have never done anything. Thoughts just happen. You are not the Doer. Source is automatically dreaming at most to find itself, forever. There is no one here watching the movie. Yet the movie is occurring. A thought happening does not mean you are the one generating that thought. The ego can't even feel or see. Only spirit can. The All is experiencing your personal life not the sensation of the intimate personal biographical you. That is just a collection of thoughts on top of the birds chirping. On top of this simple fresh crisp moment present moment. Look around. Nothing is happening. At most a "non-happening" is watching a movie about a happening. A movie about a big "What if?" 

I have a differing understanding of this sort of thing, there are doings and happening, just not on the Absolute level, as I've told others before this "no doing" or "Nothing Happening" lingo is Top Down method, where one is already in the Experience of Oneness, Absolute and so forth, but the reality is not everyone is, so for those that are not they have to "DO" and Something is "Happening" but its on this relative level which the Top Downers deny. 

If You deny where You are right now, that You have a Body and Mind to use, that Duality and Material is present here, then it will cause massive suffering... Of course the whole point of Spirituality is to have the perspective You wrote above as a Real Experience, but its while here and Embodied, which we have to deal with.  It not all Thoughts as I said, there is much more to it...

[James123]

2 hours ago, Max1993 said:

@Ishanga Nothing has ever happened. Even "a happening" is completely dependent upon thoughts. Notice this. Nothing has ever happened. Nothing will ever happen. Your awareness is always still, the core of you is especially, and basically born 2 seconds ago so to speak, fresh, unchanging. You also have never done anything. Thoughts just happen. You are not the Doer. Source is automatically dreaming at most to find itself, forever. There is no one here watching the movie. Yet the movie is occurring. A thought happening does not mean you are the one generating that thought. The ego can't even feel or see. Only spirit can. The All is experiencing your personal life not the sensation of the intimate personal biographical you. That is just a collection of thoughts on top of the birds chirping. On top of this simple fresh crisp moment present moment. Look around. Nothing is happening. At most a "non-happening" is watching a movie about a happening. A movie about a big "What if?" 

Whatever you say is just a personal opinion, because the sayer is an illusion.

 

The actual answer is

        

 

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[Schizophonia]

On 11/6/2024 at 7:06 PM, Princess Arabia said:

5 Threads hot at the same time. I'm out, time for a break. Gonna go get me some cigs and a black and mild and a beer while you'all enlightened folks debate what enlightenment is. It's the freedom to be able to drink a beer.

Send me a pack of American spirit please.

 

France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, 24200 Sarlat-la-canéda, reside....

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

Send me a pack of American spirit please.

 

France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, 24200 Sarlat-la-canéda, reside....

Hehe. On it's way.