"The crisis in physics is real: Science is failing" by Sabine Hossenfelder

[Rafael Thundercat]

Was just to make an advertisement of her Brilliant.org product. Hehe

Joking . I like her sense of humor, my quarks vibe with her quarks and my strings too. 

[zurew]

29 minutes ago, hundreth said:

She's portraying the current scientific methods as mostly "guessing math." That's not what's actually happening. Guessing math isn't the current method.

She did elaborate a little bit on it, but I think that it is a dishonest portray of science from her part. She shouldn't have characterized the method the way she did, but again, her point still stands (that she has an issue with that method and not just with the mischaracterized version of it) and there was no specific response addressing the effectiveness of that specific method  (other than bringing up higgs boson as an achievement for the last 50 years and then talking about achievements that are not foundations of physics related but sub discipline related)

There is no engagement with the boogeyman - which is that there is probably a big need for phil of science debates and talks. (and probably this is not just related to physics)

Edited 16 hours ago by zurew

[Socrates]

18 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

But I get the temptation to deconstruct Dave's shitty materialist arguments.

That would be awesome, Dave especially is so smug in his ignorance 

[Letho]

@Carl-Richard Chris is his own worst enemy given he could make so many allies of integrity if he just. Well anyone of an IQ above 120 will be able to easily workout the rest of that sentence. So that's apparently 90 IQ points to call Chris out on his ontological ostracism by privileged authoritarianism of the intellectual great ape manosphere.

I have nothing against Chris, have genuinely always liked and enjoyed him. He should be a guy I spend a lot of time learning from, however his just mirroring the ivory tower bs he says prevents his status growth with ivory tower victimhood. Chris if you're reading this with your 210 IQ to monitor all the best social media feedback on behavior, just go to Cambodia and checkout their smiles through their struggles. Cancel culture gives someone with an IQ of 120 an easy out, not 210. The mice running around in mazes with heightened IQ generally figure out those roadblocks; cut the good smart guy bs in he face of struggle, heal your wounds then show people what you can do right now for others rather than sitting on your laurels hanging your hat on your theory of everything thats obviously not inclusive of a theory out of your signal to noise ratio on all of the elitist roadblocks ahead of you that are just more reflective of emotional immaturity with or without the genuine truth of elitist noise. It's the biggest roadblock for people who actually figure out they're a mouse in a maze that was pre-made for them. They don't realise enough the short weight that complaining about preprogrammed social stratification has on actually focusing on solutions.

The social stratifications are about as true as our best laws of physics, but when I'm running up against the heat of the Cambodian sun or their tropical rainfall when trying to run from Ho Chi Minh to Phnom Penh I don't thump my fists against the establishment or curse 'Why God' at the sun, even though I certainly nearly had moments like this, I don't even have to figure out the next level of Calculus to make the necessary evolutionary adaptive curve to survive either the sun, rainfall or psychological fatigue. I've just got to de-escalate on my sense of entitlement which Chris is overloaded on, and begin to use the neural nostrils that give me the senses to smell my own creative brain tissue out of the juxtaposition of any analogous situation of not being able to either jump into the extreme cold or heat nor middle for survival, and begin to use my long whiskers to touch the walls blockades before hitting them and feel my way through the darkness.

Sorry Chris but what you're struggling with isn't a prepaved royal magical carpet laid before you to get you out of this mess, because by the sounds of things compared to the familial Cambodian smiles through the struggles they have, you were already blessed with, what you're struggling with is narcissism, and any of its potential grandiosity is hidden behind the covert narcissism of your victim narrative.

Chris, if God were to give a golden ticket out of the social experiment that is society to one of us mice it IS an IQ of 210 for Christ's sake, not a Lamborghini or even social status for so many millions of people that are encased within those mental prisons feeding them to be addicted to those what can be toxic normalisations that they're stuck in for the sheer fact that they DON'T have an IQ of 210, they're just smart enough to achieve those riches, even if it's only short term, and they're just dumb enough to stay imprisoned by the illusions that they then infect the next person with. I've learned a lot from you and I still will I'm sure some time in the future, however you must address the prisons created by your own psychology and seek a deeper internal spiritual revolution that teaches you to slowly develop a transcendent voice on the experimental prison that is modern society and it's masters. A more deeply layered internal masterhood is what you're lacking the strength of running down your own marathon path towards achieving of which is clouded by the secret need to be liked, admired and accepted by those of social status compared to the level of intrapersonal maturity that supersedes those desires in favor of interpersonal enlightenment that makes you act more interdependently and objectively, thereby allowing you to actually speak with extreme clarity on subjects like these which for now is presently your own smoke and mirrors that is a bad influence for comparably gifted people that are more naive outside of sharing your struggles minus the inspiration for your own personal breakthroughs outside of using your victim narratives as a weapon to disarm others with a shadow side that is just as authoritarian as your supposed oppressors in the face of critically thinking about you while also showing humility.

Best wishes Chris,

Michael

 

And @Leo Gura you have to watch your own tendencies here as well man that have their own unique flavour, we all do. We all for those smart enough can Intuit how things haven't socially gone your way entirely either (I.e. Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, Owen Cook or whoever the name is). There's no shame in that. Most of us I imagine are all here because we all genuinely like you. We don't care if you're accepted or not accepted by these other people even though we understand at the same time you'd like it if a little more went your way underneath. Be your own light, transcend it as you know you can and be prudent in your own integrity here as we already know you know you want and can do and are learning to do better in your own way. Enjoy the coming year, stay true to your north and the path ahead you know puts you stronger with your light above this other passing noise that'll be insignificant by this time next year if you stay on it. Best. No need to reply mate.

[Leo Gura]

50 minutes ago, Letho said:

We all for those smart enough can Intuit how things haven't socially gone your way entirely either (I.e. Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, Owen Cook or whoever the name is). There's no shame in that.

Such people were never doing the work I do.

Any resemblance is superficial.

I never expected such people to have a serious understanding of existence. Although I did hope they would at least not be foolish enough to endorse Trump.

But it is good to see peoples' true colors. Shows you who is doing serious work and who is not, in case that wasn't clear.

Edited 9 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

Prof Dave is good if one is stuck in Stage Blue. But once you get beyond Orange it starts to look silly.

Edited 9 hours ago by Leo Gura

[zurew]

The general reply to the phil of science issues is that but "science works though" - look (insert a bunch of examples).

Yep, thats true but that often times doesn't really engage with the criticism that is made. Its a strawman, because the criticism isn't about denying the validity of certain lower level equations that are necessary for us to build certain techs , the criticism often times aimed at more abstract level problems and equations and formulas.

You can send a rocket to the moon using newtonian physics and you can do the same even if you accept general relativity. You accepting the validity of general relativity wont undermine you from sending rockets to the moon, but it will give you a more precise understanding of other things.

So the point is - multiple different kind of theories are comaptible with "science working".

Edited 4 hours ago by zurew