I don’t care about bliss

[Sugarcoat]

16 minutes ago, James123 said:

@Sugarcoat it is actually simply and truly being. That's all. However, idk about bliss but freedom and being not afraid is inevitable.

Sounds amazing 

[Sugarcoat]

9 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Bliss and IQ are correlated 

 

The lower the iq the higher the bliss or?

[Sugarcoat]

3 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Well it doesn’t matter what we want or don’t want anyway. It’s not about us seemingly.

Maybe in the absolute sense

[Princess Arabia]

7 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Well it doesn’t matter what we want or don’t want anyway. It’s not about us seemingly.

Lol whose saying that. 

Edited November 4, 2024 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

All these explanations and thoughts and ideas and concepts are coming from the same mind that wants to become enlightened and blissful. That's what it does, explains itself away. It can't help it. RECOGNIZE THAT. Next year this time look out for these same conversations. They like to appear from time to time.

Edited November 4, 2024 by Princess Arabia

[Atb210201]

Well it's good.

Who wants bliss and happiness?

Let's be neutral or even suffer if we must.

Whatever comes is gonna be fine in the end; or even not fine.

Who cares?

Let's burn eternally in hell.

 

Edited November 4, 2024 by Atb210201

[PurpleTree]

16 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Lol whose saying that. 

Nothing

[Davino]

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

I make distinction between neutrality and bliss/happiness. The absence of suffering is no feeling at all, vs a feeling of bliss/happiness

You could see it that way or you can see it this way

Neutrality is more blissful than suffering or pain. Therefore from the spectrum of undesirable to desirable experiences, you're just pushing towards the desirable, the well being. Whatever that means to you. Your sweet point so to speak.

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

The lower the iq the higher the bliss or?

Maybe watch the video and find out 

Edited November 4, 2024 by Carl-Richard

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, Carl-Richard said:

Maybe watch the video and find out 

You got me. I might. 

[Sugarcoat]

2 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

All these explanations and thoughts and ideas and concepts are coming from the same mind that wants to become enlightened and blissful. That's what it does, explains itself away. It can't help it. RECOGNIZE THAT. Next year this time look out for these same conversations. They like to appear from time to time.

I know right. We can’t help it but to constantly conceptualize things

[Sugarcoat]

1 hour ago, Atb210201 said:

Well it's good.

Who wants bliss and happiness?

Let's be neutral or even suffer if we must.

Whatever comes is gonna be fine in the end; or even not fine.

Who cares?

Let's burn eternally in hell.

 

You wouldn’t say that if it came to life😂

[Sugarcoat]

1 hour ago, Davino said:

You could see it that way or you can see it this way

Neutrality is more blissful than suffering or pain. Therefore from the spectrum of undesirable to desirable experiences, you're just pushing towards the desirable, the well being. Whatever that means to you. Your sweet point so to speak.

That’s a way of seeing it yes

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Sugarcoat said:

I know right. We can’t help it but to constantly conceptualize things

It's not about helping it. It is it. It's It's function. There's no you that cannot conceptualize. That's why at birth it's called conception. 

[Sugarcoat]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

It's not about helping it. It is it. It's It's function. There's no you that cannot conceptualize. That's why at birth it's called conception. 

What😅

[Arthogaan]

This neutrality is right here. Stop distorting it with your thoughts and ideas. See that even your thought of "I would actually be fine with neutrality" is another thought that is stirring your attention away from this neutrality. You have a good mindset. Accept the absolute boredom, neutrality and "MEH-ness" of this moment - do not comment on it. Do not listen to the thought that will come and say "meeeeh, I would be fine with neutrality but NOT LIKE THAT, I want some other neutrality, not that right now" - ignore all thoughts and remain in neutrality available to you right now. Immerse yourself in this moment as it is without any thought. Neutrality is always here waiting for you, but mind get's bored really fast and starts yapping.

[Atb210201]

On 04/11/2024 at 9:52 PM, Sugarcoat said:

You wouldn’t say that if it came to life😂

Hasn't it come to life again and again  in our lives?

Didn't we all suffer again and again in our lives?

It's OK there's no escape sometimes.

You have to go through it sometimes.

I know you know all this.

[Javfly33]

@Sugarcoat What you care does not Matter to how Reality is constructed.

Just Google the 5 bodies in Yoga and wonder why the 5th and last body is called "Bliss Body".

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Javfly33 said:

@Sugarcoat What you care does not Matter to how Reality is constructed.

Just Google the 5 bodies in Yoga and wonder why the 5th and last body is called "Bliss Body".

Ofc.

I will

[Breakingthewall]

On 4/11/2024 at 10:04 AM, Sugarcoat said:

Some people associate enlightenment with bliss . And they ask themselves if it comes with endless bliss. Am I the only one who doesn’t care about bliss or happiness. I would be very pleased with a constant “neutrality”. I just don’t wanna suffer, that’s all.

Maybe some will say this kind of thinking, in terms of how enlightenment will benefit “me” is precisely what’s standing in the way of it. Maybe, maybe not, but I just can’t help myself to think this way. I don’t think it does harm, it’s natural to wonder for oneself what something mysterious like enlightenment would entail. And as long as there is a “me” sense here it will wonder how it will benefit oneself, even if enlightenment means the end of that very “me”

It is inevitable that what pushes you is to look for a better experience. If your experience were perfect you would not search for anything, but at a given moment you have to abandon the negative approach, that is, escape from suffering, and start a positive approach: open yourself to your true nature for the sole reason that it is your true nature. This will bring a better experience, but it is a side effect, not the main thing