Given the current level of development of our society, is Trump the better choice?

[Joshe]

2 minutes ago, Raze said:

Kamala is probably not by all indications.

Probably not, but hopefully we'll get to find out for sure.

Put yourself in the shoes of the first woman president of the US. Even if you were status-quo corrupt before, there's a chance you might care more about your legacy as the first woman president so much that you actually turn over a new leaf and transcend status-quo corruption. You get to be the first woman president, don't fuck it up. I think this is a possibility, but I guess we'll see. 

 

[Inliytened1]

32 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Absolutely not.

Context?

[Joshe]

9 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I do but all indications show otherwise.  And I see her as a reflection of the last four years.  I make a good living but I support a family on a single income and I see that being increasingly harder to afford with groceries getting more and more expensive - along with fuel, etc.   And the list goes on.   

I know next to nothing about economics but I don't think Kamala has a lever she can pull to change the price of eggs and gas. Did you hear that the oil companies are raking in record-breaking profits? They are charging consumers more and they are making more profit than ever before. Why do you blame politicians for that and not the oil companies? 

Also, from what they say, inflation is global phenomenon and they say the US is faring far better than most other countries. Again, IDK shit about this stuff... it just seems like Fox News propaganda. 

Prices change over time. It's not absurd that a loaf of bread would increase by a dollar over 4 years IMO. It's been happening my entire life. Why is a large #1 at McDonald's $14 bucks when it used to be $6? Must be the Dems!

 

Edited November 3 by Joshe

[Nemra]

@Raze, if Trump wins, there won't even be a chance to stop Israel from killing Palestinians.

[zazen]

Interesting:

 

Edited November 3 by zazen

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@Raze, if Trump wins, there won't even be a chance to stop Israel from killing Palestinians.

Trump might actually stop the carnage.   With Harris you are gonna get status quo.  Trust me on that.

[Nemra]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

Trump might actually stop the carnage. With Harris you are gonna get status quo.  Trust me on that.

Trump will be even more pro-Israel than Biden or Harris.

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Trump will be even more pro-Israel than Biden or Harris.

Its a weak argument   How can you be more pro-israel than what the US has already allowed.  

[Raze]

Regarding foreign policy, the president is mostly a figurehead, it is clear now.

Trump continued supplying Ukrainian military build up just like the president before him and biden after him

both republicans and democrats pushed for cooperation with China, trump got in and started playing hard ball, when Biden got back in you’d assume he’d go back to the old way but he instead doubled down.

Trump pulled out of Obamas Iran nuclear deal, yet Biden didn’t go back in it when he came in office.

Trump was trying to pull out of Afghanistan, Biden just finalized it.

Theyre basically just following the same orders.

Edited November 4 by Raze

[Inliytened1]

14 minutes ago, zazen said:

Interesting:

 

Summary please?

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Raze said:

Regarding foreign policy, the president is mostly a figurehead, it is clear now.

Trump continued supplying Ukrainian military build up just like the president before him and biden after him

both republicans and democrats pushed for cooperation with China, trump got in and started playing hard ball, when Biden got back in you’d assume he’d go back to the old way but he instead doubled down.

Trump pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal, yet Biden didn’t go back in it.

Theyre basically just following the same orders.

Thank you.  So in your opinion if you were an American who would you vote for?  I like you because you don't have an Amarican bias. You look at things from an outside perspective  I take it that your response will only be based on foreign policy?

[Nemra]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

It's a weak argument. How can you be more pro-israel than what the US has already allowed.

It seems that you don't know about Trump. Trump and his team will remove any chance to resolve the conflict.

[Raze]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Thank you.  So in your opinion if you were an American who would you vote for?  I like you because you don't have an Amarican bias. You look at things from an outside perspective  I take it that your response will only be based on foreign policy?

I haven’t decided, I probably won’t vote.

I wouldn’t decide only based on foreign policy, but the problem is even if I agree with a candidates domestic policy I keep in mind their presidency will be followed by the other parties after one or two terms which can undo it.

Edited November 4 by Raze

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, Raze said:

I haven’t decided, I probably won’t vote.

I wouldn’t decide only based on foreign policy, but the problem is even if I agree with a candidates domestic policy I keep in mind their presidency will be followed by the other parties after one or two terms which can undo it.

 

It sounded like you were from outside the US.  

But yeah if you are within the US I feel ya.  It's a tough one.  But you still should vote.  

 

[Nemra]

Investigate how Trump became president, and you'll understand that people who endorse him are BSing themselves or are as corrupt as Trump.

[Inliytened1]

46 minutes ago, Joshe said:

I know next to nothing about economics but I don't think Kamala has a lever she can pull to change the price of eggs and gas.

I don't claim to either but there are fiscal policies that can be put in place that can have an effect on inflation.  So who is in office can make a difference. 

Edited November 4 by Inliytened1

[Thought Art]

@Inliytened1 No. Extreme corruption has nothing to do with our level of development. Trump is corruption. It's not a matter of him being at a certain level of development as such, that he somehow fits better.

Kamala Harris is the only reasonable choice.

Hmm, is a fascist dictator a better choice? Hmmm Idk. Don't kid me.

Trump, is not a conservative, or a republican or a typical politician at all.

He is a massive criminal, a selfish dictator. If we did a little digging around, even just a little we could see the damage he as already done, continues to do and would for sure do if reelected. Many wants to destory the constituion, and radically change how things are done. He wants supreme power. This serves no one but him and some rich people.

Edited November 4 by Thought Art

[Inliytened1]

9 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Investigate how Trump became president, and you'll understand that people who endorse him are BSing themselves or are as corrupt as Trump.

What i want from this post is to see why you are going to vote for Harris and not Trump.   So clearly you feel that he is corrupt.  Why do you feel Harris is best for the job?  

[Thought Art]

@Inliytened1 Because of her history, her career, her experience, her professionalism, her integrity, and her clear commitment to doing the job well, for the American people. She actually has a platform. She actually has policy that is for America. She isn't a criminal actively trying to destroy democracy.

Trump, is a conman criminal narcissist. Trump is a constant liar, swindler, cheat, fascist, sexual abuser, thief, bully, power hungry, foolish, doesn't plan. Trumps top aids and generals have warned us that he is the biggest threat to the US.

Trump is a failed business man, who got famous playing a pretend business mogul for a TV show created for the lowest common mind. The producers of the show have since come out and apologized for making him look like a success when in reality he was in trouble with the law, filing for bankrupcty, etc. His whole life is one big lie. The fact that anyone supports him is sad. The US should be embarrased.

The option should be obvious.

Edited November 4 by Thought Art

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Inliytened1 No. Extreme corruption has nothing to do with our level of development. Trump is corruption. It's not a matter of him being at a certain level of development as such, that he somehow fits better.

Kamala Harris is the only reasonable choice.

Hmm, is a fascist dictator a better choice? Hmmm Idk. Don't kid me.

Why do you think he's a fascist dictator?  Is this just a lot of rhetoric or is it something factual?