Why does my form die?

[Jowblob]

3 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Good question, I don’t know. I lean more towards atheism because no one has succeeded in answering this question.

The problem is your question , you believe that nothing is created which means you're in your ego and deny god or yourself. That's why you don't see.  The ego is gods idea for creation

Edited November 3 by Jowblob

[Carl-Richard]

2 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Good question, I don’t know. I lean more towards atheism because no one has succeeded in answering this question.

I'm not asking you. It's a rhetorical question. I'm saying the fact that bodies die means your belief in the immortality of the body is wrong.

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Jowblob said:

The problem is your question , you believe that nothing is created which means you're in your ego and deny god or yourself. That's why you don't see. 

Nothing is created or destroyed, only transformed, is what the majority in this forum believes.

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Carl-Richard said:

I'm not asking you. It's a rhetorical question. I'm saying the fact that bodies die means your belief in the immortality of the body is wrong.

I have never said that I believe in immortality. What I am saying is that if existence is eternal, then the body cannot die. However, the body does die, which makes me think that Leo Gura and the rest of this forum are on the wrong track. That is why I asked, but no one has managed to provide a proper answer. Existence cannot be eternal if the body dies; that is what my logic tells me.

 

[Jowblob]

2 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Nothing is created or destroyed, only transformed, is what the majority in this forum believes.

They mean that everything is forever there and can't be destroyed because god is in all times. Creation does happen because you yourself is an idea.

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Jowblob said:

They mean that everything is forever there and can't be destroyed because god is in all times. Creation does happen because you yourself is an idea.

Creation is impossible if existence is eternal. It is merely an illusion, but on the deepest level, there is no creation and everything has always existed.

[Sugarcoat]

4 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

I have never said that I believe in immortality. What I am saying is that if existence is eternal, then the body cannot die. However, the body does die, which makes me think that Leo Gura and the rest of this forum are on the wrong track. That is why I asked, but no one has managed to provide a proper answer. Existence cannot be eternal if the body dies; that is what my logic tells me.

 

Existence isn’t bound to the body. The body appears within existence. Existence is eternal and in it can appear many forms such as the body, and the form of the body can die, but not existence, because it’s not anything in particular it’s everything and nothing 

[Jowblob]

1 minute ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Creation is impossible if existence is eternal. It is merely an illusion, but on the deepest level, there is no creation and everything has always existed.

Thanks for the laugh 🤣 anyway im out. Keep seeking maybe one day god will bless you

[Spiritual Warfare]

4 minutes ago, Jowblob said:

Thanks for the laugh 🤣 anyway im out. Keep seeking maybe one day god will bless you

Run away.

[Spiritual Warfare]

6 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Existence isn’t bound to the body. The body appears within existence. Existence is eternal and in it can appear many forms such as the body, and the form of the body can die, but not existence, because it’s not anything in particular it’s everything and nothing 

But the body is a part of existence.

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, Spiritual Warfare said:

But the body is a part of existence.

Yes but forms can change. So the form of the body “dies” and turns into another form “dust” or whatever the body turns into when it dies . In the same way a flower dies and turns into soil. The form changes, one form dies (is transformed into another form)

[ChrisZoZo]

1 hour ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Okay, but after death, why can’t I return to my body?

Who the hell said you can’t. The fact is, you don’t want to and the people who were/are upset about others passing came in to this life with the desire to experience that suffering (as a soul) so by coming back you are doing the opposite of keeping them happy but ruining their destiny. If you come back also the pass will be different may look the same but the souls are different unless it was agreed to be the same souls in the entire interaction. 
 

Jesus Christ came back from the dead for real. That was not a misdiagnosis of death. He really left the body and came back. 

[Yimpa]

Instead of framing this journey as dying, see it from a place or remembering who YOU are.

[Carl-Richard]

12 hours ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

I have never said that I believe in immortality. What I am saying is that if existence is eternal, then the body cannot die. However, the body does die, which makes me think that Leo Gura and the rest of this forum are on the wrong track. That is why I asked, but no one has managed to provide a proper answer. Existence cannot be eternal if the body dies; that is what my logic tells me.

This is how we solve your problem:

Please describe in minimum 10 sentences what your idea of existence is.

Here are some questions to help: what is existence? How does it differ from other similar concepts? How does existence relate to the body?

Go.

Edited November 4 by Carl-Richard

[Davino]

@Spiritual Warfare Did you have a chance to watch the videos?

I particularly got the insight for your questions in the Infinity video. You'll get more value in those two videos than in two weeks of Forum discussions

Edited November 4 by Davino

[gettoefl]

16 hours ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Creation is impossible if existence is eternal. It is merely an illusion, but on the deepest level, there is no creation and everything has always existed.

There are 2 things going on, what ego does and what god does

Ego is everything your eyes show you such as a body.

A pure illusion and veil over what god is doing

Drop the one at hand to behold the oneness beyond

Edited November 4 by gettoefl

[Princess Arabia]

7 hours ago, Davino said:

@Spiritual Warfare Did you have a chance to watch the videos?

I particularly got the insight for your questions in the Infinity video. You'll get more value in those two videos than in two weeks of Forum discussions

He is not interested in watching the videos. He's not interested in answers, he's interested in keeping the mind's activity going and going and going. More answers will lead to more questions and more questions lead to more answers which leads to more questions and so on and so forth. How else does the mind keeps it's quo going. What do you want to do, kill this brother, he doesn't want to die. He wants to stay alive for more questions - not answers. Answers don't satisfy the mind, only questions and problems do. 

[Princess Arabia]

15 hours ago, Yimpa said:

Instead of framing this journey as dying, see it from a place or remembering who YOU are.

Who you are didn't forget who it is. Who you are just is. It doesn't have an activity as in forgetting.

[Spiritual Warfare]

21 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Yes but forms can change. So the form of the body “dies” and turns into another form “dust” or whatever the body turns into when it dies . In the same way a flower dies and turns into soil. The form changes, one form dies (is transformed into another form)

Why does it need to transform?

[Spiritual Warfare]

20 hours ago, ChrisZoZo said:

Who the hell said you can’t. The fact is, you don’t want to and the people who were/are upset about others passing came in to this life with the desire to experience that suffering (as a soul) so by coming back you are doing the opposite of keeping them happy but ruining their destiny. If you come back also the pass will be different may look the same but the souls are different unless it was agreed to be the same souls in the entire interaction. 
 

Jesus Christ came back from the dead for real. That was not a misdiagnosis of death. He really left the body and came back. 

Please stop