Why does my form die?

[Princess Arabia]

The body is not even alive, the heart is pumping blood just like a car cannot drive without gas or electricity. 

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

It does not transform. The body dies because when you die you become formless and not another body. 

Stop confusing me for the body. Don't know about you, but I'm not just the body. These kinds of questions fall away when you've recognized the true self. The thread will go on forever if you think you're the body because every answer will point back to there being a person in the body when there isn't.

Edited November 3 by Princess Arabia

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Ishanga said:

@Spiritual Warfare Your biggest problem is you've set up some beliefs systems, but they seem contrary to one another, you keep on saying things like "existence is supposed to be eternal" and similar sort of phrases, but in reality you know nothing, but You think you know a bit of something, and you want to know the truth of the matter, it doesn't work this way...half truth is not truth at all...

First work on your basic experience, you seem pretty emotional, and uptight, fix that first, then go from there..

Thank you for gaslighting. I don’t have all the answers and have never claimed to know everything. You, however, believe you have the answer. I ask questions and challenge many people’s beliefs. Does that make me emotional and confused? Not at all.

[Carl-Richard]

1 minute ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Thank you for gaslighting. I don’t have all the answers and have never claimed to know everything. You, however, believe you have the answer. I ask questions and challenge many people’s beliefs. Does that make me emotional and confused? Not at all.

Formlessness is eternal. Form is not. You're just wrong.

[Spiritual Warfare]

2 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Formlessness is eternal. Form is not. You're just wrong.

Form must be eternal because how can you create something if you do not already have the source for it? It is not possible.

[Princess Arabia]

There is only aliveness. Nothing is really alive just appears to be. Aliveness is permeating through everything. 

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

There is only aliveness. Nothing is really alive just appears to be. Aliveness is permeating through everything. 

That is a contradiction.

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Spiritual Warfare said:

That is a contradiction.

How

[Jowblob]

5 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

The body is not even alive, the heart is pumping blood just like a car cannot drive without gas or electricity. 

It's an illussion of aliveness, blood is an illussion too. How do i know?

i have experienced physical astral body, every single mechanic/thing in your body will become visible and you can see through your arms for example. Veins/nervous system will become indistructuble, you will view them as vibrations/mechanics of life/yourself. You will bevome aware that your consciousness takes this form for aesthetic/pleasant reasons and that even the astral body isnt you.This guys ego had some mystical experience, and he thinks he knows the answers. That's the problem when you try to control and seek.

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

How

You cannot be alive and not alive at the same time.

 

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Jowblob said:

It's an illussion of aliveness, blood is an illussion too. How do i know?

i have experienced physical astral body, every single mechanic/thing in your body will become visible and you can see through your arms for example. Veins/nervous system will become indistructuble, you will view them as vibrations/mechanics of life/yourself. You will bevome aware that your consciousness takes this form for aesthetic/pleasant reasons and that even the astral body isnt you.This guys ego had some mystical experience, and he thinks he knows the answers. That's the problem when you try to control and seek.

His question is an illusion, my answer is an illusion, your comment is an illusion, this forum is an illusion, you saying it's an illusion is an illusion. It's all except for what is not. Still gotta eat.

[Carl-Richard]

15 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Form must be eternal because how can you create something if you do not already have the source for it? It is not possible.

Ironically, you would have the benefit of jumping into our train wreck of a discussion on metaphysics in the other thread that got derailed. But I'll save you the hassle and just give you the summary:

You can have the idea of something (the "what"), or the structure of something (the "how"), or you can have it manifested in physical form (the "where"). For example, you can have the idea of a body, or the structural blueprint of a body, or an actual body in human flesh right in front of you that you can see and touch.

Now, you could indeed say that the idea of a body, or even the structural blueprint of a body, is eternal. It's beyond space and time. It's only when you manifest it in the flesh, in physical stuff, that it becomes not eternal. So the idea of the body, or the structural blueprint (the immaterial form of the body), is eternal, but the physical manifestation of it is not. Makes sense?

Edited November 3 by Carl-Richard

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Carl-Richard said:

Ironically, you would have the benefit of jumping into our trainwreck of a discussion on metaphysics in the other thread that got derailed. But I'll save you the hassle and just give you the summary:

You can have the idea of something (the "what"), or the structure of something (the "how"), and you can have it manifested in physical form (the "where"). For example, you can have the idea of a body, or the structural blueprint of a body, or an actual body in human flesh right in front of you.

Now, you could indeed say that the idea of a body, or even the structural blueprint of a body, is eternal. It's beyond space and time. It's only when you manifest it in the flesh, in physical stuff, that it becomes not eternal. So the idea of the body, or the structural blueprint (the immaterial form of the body), is eternal, but the physical manifestation of it is not. Makes sense?

The physical still exists. Everything is mental.

[Princess Arabia]

6 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

You cannot be alive and not alive at the same time.

 

Does a vacuum cleaner come alive when it's not plugged in. The electricity is alive not the vacuum. Same with the body. It's dead meat. The heart is what keeps it alive.

Edited November 3 by Princess Arabia

[Carl-Richard]

Just now, Spiritual Warfare said:

The physical still exists. Everything is mental.

Show me a physical body that has existed forever.

[Jowblob]

Just now, Spiritual Warfare said:

The physical still exists. Everything is mental.

Physical is the dream itself , the dream is an illussion which means physical is too. From gods perspective dream is just a tiny pixel. Everything within God is build in structured layers, so that every aspect of god can give life meaning and something of god.

 

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Carl-Richard said:

Show me a physical body that has existed forever.

Non-existence does not exist, which means that everything exists. The physical body is existence, and this existence is eternal and can take the form of a body. You must see the connection between form (energy) and the body, nothing is separate.

[Carl-Richard]

Just now, Spiritual Warfare said:

Non-existence does not exist, which means that everything exists. The physical body is existence, and this existence is eternal and can take the form of a body. You must see the connection between form (energy) and the body, nothing is separate.

Then why the fuck does your body die?

[Spiritual Warfare]

2 minutes ago, Jowblob said:

Physical is the dream itself , the dream is an illussion which means physical is too. From gods perspective dream is just a tiny pixel. Everything within God is build in structured layers, so that every aspect of god can give life meaning and something of god.

 

Illusions are real. Remember that.

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Carl-Richard said:

Then why the fuck does your body die?

Good question, I don’t know. I lean more towards atheism because no one has succeeded in answering this question.