Showing Trump’s Racist Comments to Latinos and they STILL Support Him

[Etherial Cat]

3 minutes ago, What Am I said:

Good to know on being unprejudiced. It's interesting how different experiences can afford us various opportunities for growth that may seem so foreign to others. I guess there's always another complexity around the bend in life. Good luck with your endeavors.

🙏🏽

Thank you. You too.

[mojsterr]

12 hours ago, Hatfort said:

However, I think the Puerto Rican community may be genuinely mad about being called garbage

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this taken out of context?

He said puerto rico is an island of garbage, and from what I've heard they do have a massive problem with garbage there? 

Edited November 4 by mojsterr

[mojsterr]

12 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Idk, i don't follow American politic at all, i just know he his highly qualified and is supposed to have a high iq.

 

What are we talking about here. In the 95's? 100's even? 

[Leo Gura]

As predicted by Spiral Dynamics.

People vote based on their stage of development, not their race, gender, party, religion, or whatever else.

Many latinos are stage Blue. Many immigrants are stage Blue. Many of them would vote for a fascist.

Edited November 5 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

37 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

As predicted by Spiral Dynamics.

People vote based on their stage of development, not their race, gender, party, religion, or whatever else.

Many latinos are stage Blue. Many immigrants are stage Blue. Many of them would vote for a fascist.

Well, then why did they bother coming over to this country if they were hoping for more freedom?

[Alex4]

1 hour ago, Hardkill said:

Well, then why did they bother coming over to this country if they were hoping for more freedom?

An America under Donald Trump, despite everything, is still much better than the shitholes most immigrants come from.

[PurpleTree]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

As predicted by Spiral Dynamics.

People vote based on their stage of development, not their race, gender, party, religion, or whatever else.

Many latinos are stage Blue. Many immigrants are stage Blue. Many of them would vote for a fascist.

I agree. Lol at this woke reason crap.

Many immigrants coming to Europe are obviously very conservative. Lower on womens rights, lgbt rights etc. Has nothing to do with white masculinity horse dung smh.

[How to be wise]

@Leo Gura It’s unfortunate that even Joe Rogan has endorsed him.

 

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Today will be the day when we find out whether our country's center of gravity is blue/ORANGE (with regressions into Nationalist and theocratic BLUE accompanied by RED corruption) , or ORANGE/green (which is where I personally place Harris and her supporters).

 

 

 

Edited November 5 by Husseinisdoingfine

[What Am I]

For those who are more familiar with spiral dynamics, is it normal to feel a certain revulsion to stage green, despite its virtues? I remember Ken Wilber referring to something like "mean green," but I never really understood the context.

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Just now, What Am I said:

For those who are more familiar with spiral dynamics, is it normal to feel a certain revulsion to stage green, despite its virtues? I remember Ken Wilber referring to something like "mean green," but I never really understood the context.

This is normal, because every code has its excesses and unhealthy expressions. 

We as a society need ORANGE's creative ingenuity, without its Laissez faire attitude towards everything.

[Joshe]

1 hour ago, What Am I said:

For those who are more familiar with spiral dynamics, is it normal to feel a certain revulsion to stage green, despite its virtues? I remember Ken Wilber referring to something like "mean green," but I never really understood the context.

I'm not super educated on SD but here's a few thoughts:

I think I went through stage green on my own without ever joining green communities. I've always had very yellow characteristics but I was very much orange in my teens and 20's and as I developed morally, on my own, outside of any group-think, I started to care for and love life and the world. This is the only way I can make sense of SD, because I was never what looks like green. 

I never took up stage green ways but I've never been repulsed by them either. I think it has to do with openness. If the nature of a thing is explorative, open, and fundamentally wants peace, those aspects usually override any immaturity they exhibit, although I can't be around them for very long without getting bored.

I often get triggered by stupidity but one day I was talking to a happy-go-lucky, cheerful person who was absolutely stupid, and I liked him. I didn't get triggered at all by his stupidity and ignorance because his nature was positive. On the other hand, if an arrogant asshole is being stupid, it triggers me. 

I just see the greens as immature but their nature usually doesn't bother me. I like the company of hippies but I don't usually care about their ideas. 

Edited November 5 by Joshe

[What Am I]

19 minutes ago, Joshe said:

I'm not super educated on SD but here's a few thoughts:

I think I went through stage green on my own without ever joining green communities. I've always had very yellow characteristics but I was very much orange in my teens and 20's and as I developed morally, on my own, outside of any group-think, I started to care for and love life and the world. This is the only way I can make sense of SD, because I was never what looks like green. 

I never took up stage green ways but I've never been repulsed by them either. I think it has to do with openness. If the nature of a thing is explorative, open, and fundamentally wants peace, those aspects usually override any immaturity they exhibit, although I can't be around them for very long without getting bored.

I often get triggered by stupidity but one day I was talking to a happy-go-lucky, cheerful person who was absolutely stupid, and I liked him. I didn't get triggered at all by his stupidity and ignorance because his nature was positive. On the other hand, if an arrogant asshole is being stupid, it triggers me. 

I just see the greens as immature but their nature usually doesn't bother me. I like the company of hippies but I don't usually care about their ideas. 

I'm sure I'm less educated. It's something I should look more into, for the sake of productive conversation if nothing else.

I feel like what I'm noticing is more of a shadow of stage green or something rather than characteristics that they all actively present by default. Like you mentioned, it's an immaturity. A snarky attitude mixed with an exuding of unearned arrogance. It just seems so counterproductive, and a sort of chain around their neck that prevents them from better expressing their level of development.

But who knows, though, I could be way off in trying to interpret SD. Thanks for the info.

[Joshe]

25 minutes ago, What Am I said:

I'm sure I'm less educated. It's something I should look more into, for the sake of productive conversation if nothing else.

I feel like what I'm noticing is more of a shadow of stage green or something rather than characteristics that they all actively present by default. Like you mentioned, it's an immaturity. A snarky attitude mixed with an exuding of unearned arrogance. It just seems so counterproductive, and a sort of chain around their neck that prevents them from better expressing their level of development.

But who knows, though, I could be way off in trying to interpret SD. Thanks for the info.

Yeah, IDK. It sounds like you're saying what appears to be green is just orange masquerading as more developed? I suppose that could be the case for many.

The reason I never went very deep into SD is because I can't reconcile it with my direct experience. If I exhibit mostly yellow tendencies and never went through what is typically described as stage green, how did I get to yellow? I went through a drastic moral growth spurt, but IDK if you call that green. Maybe introverts handle green differently? 

Edited November 5 by Joshe

[Leo Gura]

9 hours ago, Hardkill said:

Well, then why did they bother coming over to this country if they were hoping for more freedom?

They did get more freedom.

There are many degrees and types of freedom. But to most immigrants what matters is not some abstract freedom but economic opportunity.

[Etherial Cat]

10 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

I agree. Lol at this woke reason crap.

Many immigrants coming to Europe are obviously very conservative. Lower on womens rights, lgbt rights etc. Has nothing to do with white masculinity horse dung smh.

What do you think SD stage Blue stands for?

SD Blue is complementary to my analysis, not at odds.

[PurpleTree]

1 hour ago, Etherial Cat said:

What do you think SD stage Blue stands for?

SD Blue is complementary to my analysis, not at odds.

I don’t know. I just easily get triggered when i see people think it’s totally ok to go against "whiteness" or "masculinity" as i happen to be both of those things seemingly. And it’s just boring woke ideology talking points with nothing to offer imo.

 

(i also get triggered when people go against other races or femininity for that matter but with whitenesss it’s people who think themselves as anti racist etc)

So whatever it’s not important.