Why the hell God designed Survival and death in existence?

[Vercingetorix]

God could have designed a universe where no one dies, there is no suffering, you don't have to fight or kill others to survive. What are the benefits of designing existence the way it is? what is the meaning of survival?

[Sugarcoat]

Why do you believe in a god as the creator?

[James123]

2 minutes ago, Vercingetorix said:

God could have designed a universe where no one dies, there is no suffering, you don't have to fight or kill others to survive. What are the benefits of designing existence the way it is? what is the meaning of survival?

LOVE!!!!

[PurpleTree]

There is no "why"

[tuku747]

15 minutes ago, enchanted said:

You are God, so ask yourself.

This

[Princess Arabia]

You cannot live forever as something you're not. You believe you're a human that is suffering. God did not invent suffering. Do you see a rainbow in the sky forever. Do you see a cloud holding it's same shape forever. Do you see any form maintaining it's shape forever. Anything in form is mortal. We suffer because of our misunderstanding of who we think we are. Suffering is a part of separation. It goes hand in hand. Sever your limb and you feel pain and suffering. That's analogous to us separating ourselves on the mental plane from reality.

This is why suffering is a mental activity. Take away what you know and you cannot suffer. If you lived in the woods all by yourself with food and water to sustain your life and you know nothing else, you would not suffer. Suffer from what. It is because of what we think we know why we suffer. A death in the family is just that, apparent death. What you think you know about death is why you might suffer that person's death. You mourn their loss because you know them. Do you suffer the death of someone you don't know. That's just an example. If you suffer because you are poor, you suffer the thought of not being rich. If you knew nothing about being rich, you would not suffer being poor. If you're in pain because of an accident, that's pain and that is biological. Also mental, but biologically induced and not because of thought.

No one gets out alive precisely because no one is alive. What you are looking at is mechanical and biological and mental programming. It's the body that is alive and because it's in a form, it has to die eventually. There's no one inside that body, it's just information being transmitted through energetic intelligence. There's wiring and static and negative and positive charges just like an electrical equipment. The form came from the formless and has to go back from whence it came. Ice goes back to being water. The wave goes back to the ocean. 

Edited November 2 by Princess Arabia

[Ishanga]

2 hours ago, Vercingetorix said:

God could have designed a universe where no one dies, there is no suffering, you don't have to fight or kill others to survive. What are the benefits of designing existence the way it is? what is the meaning of survival?

Remember there is no Absolute Meaning in any action or creation, everything is Relative in a sense, Your Meaning, what means something to You, means nothing to someone else and so forth, just like there is no absolute right or wrong, good or bad, it all depends on relativity and perception and such...

Absolute is the way it is because it holds all Potentials and Possibilities.. The things You mention, they happen in all life forms, but only we Humans have choice, we don't have to kill unnecessarily, we have to kill to eat and survive, but we don't have to kill for the sake of killing, same with destruction and all the other dis empowering actions we take all the time, we have choice we just haven't decided yet to do more Empowering actions than Dis Empowering ones.. 

This is all reliant on how Conscious we are as a Species overall, its obvious we are not overall very conscious, once we raise the level of Consciousness in most ppl, then things will Transform.. To Be Conscious means Your intouch with Truth and Reality, which means Your Experience of Life is All Inclusive, You feel a great sense of Oneness, Connection and Bliss, and You see Reality for what it is, not what You want it too be or what You heard it should be like...

Edited November 3 by Ishanga

[Vercingetorix]

3 hours ago, enchanted said:

You are God, so ask yourself.

I do ask myself and I got some answers to this question. I see Asking others here as part of asking myself. 

 

[Vercingetorix]

4 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Why do you believe in a god as the creator?

Existence exist. I assume there is an intelligence design behind it (it's my intuition and I have experienced experiences that seem to suggest so. It's also fun to believe so).

 

[Vercingetorix]

4 hours ago, James123 said:

LOVE!!!!

I assume that you mean that death and survival allows us to love in a dual world a d so experience the journey of discovering love? ❤️ 

[Vercingetorix]

@Princess Arabia your reply reminded me why I asked this question. I was wondering why in order to exist and live I have to eat and kill other living being. I was washing my puppy's bowl from ants and though that I can't function normally in life without killing living creatures.

Why  create a world were you need to kill to live. Why this design is the perfect way to exist?

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Vercingetorix said:

@Princess Arabia your reply reminded me why I asked this question. I was wondering why in order to exist and live I have to eat and kill other living being. I was washing my puppy's bowl from ants and though that I can't function normally in life without killing living creatures.

Why  create a world were you need to kill to live. Why this design is the perfect way to exist?

Life is just happening, It is going on it's own without a "me". You've put a story behind what's happening, There's a felt feeling that this is happening to me so everything seems like that. Seems like you're killing ants, but that's only an appearance, There's no you killing ants, there just the killing of ants. It's all energetic. There's no you, there's no me there's just life. There's no creation. It's all fresh and new. You have created a story behind what's happening to maintain the idea of a me. 

 

 

 

[Staples]

You wouldn't be able to have everything else you enjoy without survival and death.

Reality is like a house of cards. You can't just take away one aspect you don't like and expect everything else to stay the same.

For example, without survival and death humans would never have evolved the ability to taste their food. So, if you enjoy the experience of eating, you have survival and death to thank.

Death is a necessary component in order for the universe to exist at all. You don't question why Mars exists, or why birds have wings.
We fear death because we are biologically programmed to.

Edited November 3 by Staples

[Atb210201]

Why don't you ask Him yourself?

[zurew]

The answer is that it isn't necessary.

There are many possible options we can go through.

Some of the options entails the existence of God and  others dont.

But the existence of God is compatible with the existence of suffering and evil, it is just that not all models of God is compatible with it.

[James123]

7 hours ago, Vercingetorix said:

I assume that you mean that death and survival allows us to love in a dual world a d so experience the journey of discovering love? ❤️ 

İn the case yes. But, what i said is when you overwhelmed by love, there will be no question left. End of spirituality the one realizes there is no answer for any question because there is no such thing as question. 

Edited November 3 by James123

[Breakingthewall]

Because there are no limits, reality is infinite, so any form must be cyclical, otherwise it would be infinite, and if it were, it would not be a form, it would be infinity. Any cycle begins and ends at the same point, it is a circular movement, but it lays the foundations of a new cycle, and all this in turn is a new cycle. The cosmos is cycles within cycles, which occur infinitely. From an absolute perspective they go nowhere because in infinity there is no real movement, no real expansion, no real evolution, only cyclical movement that ends where it began.

To say that God does something for some reason such as adventures, love, experience, is not to intuit what infinity means. There is only one possible final reason: to exist, and it is inevitable, since its antagonist is not to exist, then it is an absolute reason or will, without a contrary.

You can say that love, adventures, etc. are within existence if you want, but really the only absolute will is to exist. It is the absolute power that arises from the fact that nothing limits it, since the will to not exist does not exist, then it emerges like a supernova elevated to infinite power.

[gettoefl]

13 hours ago, Vercingetorix said:

God could have designed a universe where no one dies, there is no suffering, you don't have to fight or kill others to survive. What are the benefits of designing existence the way it is? what is the meaning of survival?

It has.

You are resisting and fighting and putting up barriers and borders

The all loving all holy God could not contaminate itself with any such madness

Yet in its delight towards its magnificent offspring, it gives you free will to do so.

Death suffering separation are illusion.

You made all this here yourself

rather than living in bliss as you were designed

Seems like a long dream here but it is the blink of an eye

while you take a nap and engage in escapism from heaven's joy

Edited November 3 by gettoefl

[Sugarcoat]

10 hours ago, Vercingetorix said:

Existence exist. I assume there is an intelligence design behind it (it's my intuition and I have experienced experiences that seem to suggest so. It's also fun to believe so).

 

Ok what experiences suggest so?

[Breakingthewall]

10 hours ago, Vercingetorix said:

Existence exist. I assume there is an intelligence design behind it (it's my intuition and I have experienced experiences that seem to suggest so. It's also fun to believe so).

 

Intelligence of reality is infinite because reality manifested is relative, that is, it is a movement in relation to another movement. For this, the movements must be absolutely synchronous, since if they are not they simply do not appear, then everything that appears is infinitely synchronic, not because someone plans it that way, but because the synchronic manifests itself and the non-synchronous does not. this elevated to infinite power is infinite intelligence