You Are Already Awake - This Is Why

[mrroboto]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

not agree, there is absolute awakening. It is obvious, you exist, so what you ultimately are is existence, but you perceive yourself as a limited human. There are innate structures created by millions of years of evolution that make this so, since this has been the most efficient configuration. You can dissolve all these structures and perceive yourself as the unlimited existence outside of time and any limits. It is something difficult and counterintuitive since the mind works with limits. is to achieve total openness. It doesn't mean that you are going to enjoy every minute of human life and that, because that openess is not permanent, it happens sometimes, other times you are in the structured mind. 

If I am unlimited in existence, and as source in this limited form (then I am already complete as is) I can will anything into my reality that I so wish. since i (as God) exist in multiple timelines and space I have already experienced it right here right now.  

 

I am wealth and abundance (since I have created it) I am happiness, I am love i am peace 

 

and on the flip side again all in infinite timeliness.

[Sugarcoat]

One reason not to repeat myself that I can tell I’m not awakened is because there’s a significant difference between my everyday state and the “state” on 5 Meo dmt 

[Princess Arabia]

9 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

The seed is still only the seed, not the tree yet. You have the capacity to jump inside you, but you haven’t jumped yet. You have the capacity to awaken but you haven’t awakened yet, I would say. 

Yes, the seed is only a seed BUT ONLY IN APPEARANCE. You are not awakened but only in appearance. The point of my post is to say you are already that rose ready to be bloomed. Watered and cared for. You cannot turn a rose seed into an orange seed. The only reason you have the capacity to awaken is if you were already that. Nothing said about actualizing that awareness. 

This world is an after thought. It is already done. You are already awake you're just catching up to it. That's the point. Nothing you do will awaken you only actualize it and give you the recognition. How is somebody going to know or not know they're awaken if they don't already know what that is. In order to know what that is you have to be it and you cannot become something you're not already.

 

[Sugarcoat]

I’m not fully sure about this but I would also say the sense of self is neurological in one aspect. And I’m guessing psychedelics through interaction in the brain can temporarily break down this neurological structure 

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

Yes, the seed is only a seed BUT ONLY IN APPEARANCE. You are not awakened but only in appearance. The point of my post is to say you are already that rose ready to be bloomed. Watered and cared for. You cannot turn a rose seed into an orange seed. The only reason you have the capacity to awaken is if you were already that. Nothing said about actualizing that awareness. 

This world is an after thought. It is already done. You are already awake you're just catching up to it. That's the point. Nothing you do will awaken you only actualize it and give you the recognition. How is somebody going to know or not know they're awaken if they don't already know what that is. In order to know what that is you have to be it and you cannot become something you're not already.

 

I can maybe see what you’re saying it’s the use of words at the end of the day that might differ

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

One reason not to repeat myself that I can tell I’m not awakened is because there’s a significant difference between my everyday state and the “state” on 5 Meo dmt 

Yes, exactly. You have something to compare it to. What are you comparing that state of 5meo to. Something already known. 

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

Yes, exactly. You have something to compare it to. What are you comparing that state of 5meo to. Something already known. 

The “state” on 5 Meo is being contrasted against my everyday state. It’s not known

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Sugarcoat said:

I can maybe see what you’re saying it’s the use of words at the end of the day that might differ

That's all that's happening. Misunderstandings. 

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Sugarcoat said:

The “state” on 5 Meo is being contrasted against my everyday state. It’s not known

Then how are you comparing 5meo to your natural state and saying that's how you know you're not awake if it's not known. What's not known. Not sure if i'm quite understanding you.

[Sugarcoat]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

That's all that's happening. Misunderstandings. 

Possibly 

[Sugarcoat]

3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Then how are you comparing 5meo to your natural state and saying that's how you know you're not awake if it's not known. What's not known. Not sure if i'm quite understanding you.

Maybe it’s a question of how one defines awakening. During my everyday state i perceive myself as a limited human self. That I call the non awakened state. During 5 Meo that perception was partially/completely temporarily broken down, so it was almost like I didn’t exist. That’s not something I’ve “experienced” before so that’s why I said it’s not known. That I’m guessing is the awakened state. Im not fully sure though I’m open to changing my views but so far this makes sense to me. 

Edited November 2 by Sugarcoat

[Princess Arabia]

23 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

We are not already awakened until this shift of perception happens and it happens only by increase of awareness.

What you are saying here is equivalent to saying the baby doesn't yet realize itself as a person until the shift (getting older)  occurs for the self-recognition. Still a person, right. Well, still awakened. The shift did not awaken you. Or you could say, the shift awakened you to realize you were already awake. The baby realized what it already was.

Edited November 2 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

9 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Maybe it’s a question of how one defines awakening. During my everyday state i perceive myself as a limited human self. That I call the non awakened state. During 5 Meo that perception was partially/completely temporarily broken down, so it was almost like I didn’t exist. That’s not something I’ve “experienced” before so that’s why I said it’s not known. That I’m guessing is the awakened state. Im not fully sure though I’m open to changing my views but so far this makes sense to me. 

Quite interesting. Only thing is we cannot experience something we do not know. Go and investigate that.

[Salvijus]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

What you are saying here is equivalent to saying the baby doesn't yet realize itself as a person until the shift occurs for the self-recognition. Still a person, right. Well, still awakened. The shift did not awaken you. 

The shift does not make you who you are. But the shift is what is referred to as realization of who we are. The shift is of the paramount importance. Being awake and completely unaware of it is of no value. 

Edited November 2 by Salvijus

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

Only thing is we cannot experience something we do not know.

What do you mean? Can’t we have completely new experiences?

[Breakingthewall]

32 minutes ago, mrroboto said:

If I am unlimited in existence, and as source in this limited form (then I am already complete as is) I can will anything into my reality that I so wish. since i (as God) exist in multiple timelines and space I have already experienced it right here right now.  

 

I am wealth and abundance (since I have created it) I am happiness, I am love i am peace 

 

and on the flip side again all in infinite timeliness.

49 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

 

I think that the only possible definition is that I am the absence of limits. I'm not creating anything, it arises from the absence of limitations. Anything else is a limit. But anyway, I am me. It's me, not anything else

Edited November 2 by Breakingthewall

[mrroboto]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I think that the only possible definition is that I am the absence of limits. I'm not creating anything, it arises from the absence of limitations. Anything else is a limit. 

quite profound yet so simple .... in so many words no known limits  anything that has limits are the limits 

[Someone here]

Arabia Princess: You are already awake . You can't awaken unless you are already awake. A banana tree sows bananas not pineapples. 

Walkingthebreak: Not agree. Because Structures. Evolution. Unlimited. Limited. It's obvious. 

[Sincerity]

You hide things from yourself all the time. And when you do, you're unawake to them. Even though they're technically "there".

[Sugarcoat]

23 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Walkingthebreak

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