Experience

[Bruins8000]

Why is there experience (I.E. an “apparent experiencer” experiencing something)? Is there no deeper purpose? Some people say “just because.” Does that mean if experience never arose that’d have the same amount of meaning?

[Yimpa]

I am aware that I duped myself into this experience. Yes, if you did not deceive yourself you wouldn’t be here. Hence why they call it an illusion. The meaning is infinite. The sky’s the limit. But you are also the sky. And you are also limited, because you can’t just imagine 1 million dollars out of thin air.

Blah, blah, blah. Do you get my point? 

[Atb210201]

It is a game.

It both has profound meaning and purpose and no meaning and purpose at all.

You choose what suits you the best.

Edited November 2 by Atb210201

[Sempiternity]

Any meaning is self-created. There is no inherent meaning to anything. 

Image a Being, made of Consciousness. It does not have form, no physicality. It does not exist in "time". It is Infinite, Eternal. It is all that there is, all that there ever will be. It has been alone and will always be alone, for all of eternity. Could this be maddening, to only know yourself, know that you will always be alone, formless, for all eternity? 

If this Being has the ability to make itself into anything. Maybe it made itself to appear to have form and physicality. Maybe it made itself to appear as though it has a "body" and there are "other things" that are separate from it. Maybe it created a sense of "time", so it can experience the passage of time. Then it made itself forget that it did all this, so it could experience form, and time, and a body, and other, and life, and reality, all unfettered by the knowledge that it created itself to be all this. Made itself lost in the dream. So it can forget it is Nothing, that it is eternally alone. 

[James123]

3 hours ago, Bruins8000 said:

Why is there experience (I.E. an “apparent experiencer” experiencing something)? Is there no deeper purpose? Some people say “just because.” Does that mean if experience never arose that’d have the same amount of meaning?

İt never does. Ego makes it so. 

[VeganAwake]

@Bruins8000 Yeah man,

Its completely random and meaningless. There are no goals or end results needed. Thats the unconditional freedom.....but I understand how that can feel disappointing.....notice its only disappointing for someone expecting meaning or purpose though! 

Expectations are human creations!

[Breakingthewall]

The only answer to everything is because there are no limits. If someone says that this experience is happening for something specific, like God wants to experience himself, they are light years away from understanding what infinity means.

I'm sorry for those egos needing to grab onto something solid, but infinity is open. awakening is opening. Saying that there is a final cause closes the opening, makes it finite. Isn't it obvious?

[PurpleTree]

5 hours ago, Sempiternity said:

Any meaning is self-created. There is no inherent meaning to anything. 

Image a Being, made of Consciousness. It does not have form, no physicality. It does not exist in "time". It is Infinite, Eternal. It is all that there is, all that there ever will be. It has been alone and will always be alone, for all of eternity. Could this be maddening, to only know yourself, know that you will always be alone, formless, for all eternity? 

If this Being has the ability to make itself into anything. Maybe it made itself to appear to have form and physicality. Maybe it made itself to appear as though it has a "body" and there are "other things" that are separate from it. Maybe it created a sense of "time", so it can experience the passage of time. Then it made itself forget that it did all this, so it could experience form, and time, and a body, and other, and life, and reality, all unfettered by the knowledge that it created itself to be all this. Made itself lost in the dream. So it can forget it is Nothing, that it is eternally alone. 

I agree but i don’t think being alone and being alone forever is an issue for this no-thing. There is no time and it’s complete and not lacking anything. If it chooses to feel lack and get bothered in time it seemingly can do so. I think it’s exploring these stories not out of lack or longing but just for creativity, exploration and interest.

Edited November 2 by PurpleTree

[Hojo]

What deeper purpose could there possibly be than experience? Anything that you would want with deeper meaning, would have to be experienced for it to happen.

The only other thing I can see is to do things to not experience things, and maybe that's where the hidden meaning is. That's what every spiritual teacher says.

Throw experience away to see the experiencee.

Life is like a void of nothing then experience then a void of nothing then experience. Forever with no context. Anything to do with language is not having to do with the experience. Its a completely abstract experience happening that seems to make logical sense until you break logic and see its just pictures and sounds happening with no meaning or logic or language, then a void of nothing.Then pictures and sounds happening with no meaning logic or language, then a void of nothing, forever with no context.

When in soul mode you can just look at something and become it and experience it. When in human mode you get to look at something experience it become it but stay a human. You can probably accidentally become a toothbrush 15 times in a row cause you forget what you were after you leave the thing.

Human body is like 10000 different simulations running simultaneously and somehow the machine is so good is can see something that's not there in both aspects of ego and God.

Edited November 2 by Hojo