Tips To Reduce Nausea On Psychedelics

[Clarence]

From my recent experience, I discovered two tips, which are not discussed a lot, but that can reduce nausea considerably. They're very simple, yet very effective.

Tip n°1: Make sure you don't have air in your stomach

I learned this on 4-AcO-DMT. The come up on this substance is quite long compared to other psychedelics and I usually experience some discomfort. What I've found helps the most has been to force myself to burp before plugging and some time afterwards (5-10+ minutes after, before the effects get strong). 

It really helps the come up feel smoother. For me, what works best is to sit up and move my upper body from left to right until I can release any trapped air. Even if I don't feel like there is any, there always is some, and it needs to be released to reduce nausea.

Tip n° 2: Don't move

I learned this one this week. It makes a HUGE difference.

I learned it on 5-MeO-MALT. I had done a few trips on MALT and 5-MeO prior to that one. I often (or always) experience some discomfort during the come up phase, but nowhere near feeling like actually throwing up. Though on Monday, I plugged 17 mg of MALT and stood up to remove a picture from my view shortly after. I had never done such a thing before on these substances. Here, I had gained some confidence from never really feeling sick, and from tripping on 4-AcO-DMT and 5-MeO-MiPT, where moving around a bit actually is needed for me to reduce the discomfort.

But, on MALT, and likely on 5-MeO-DMT, it's very different. Moving just this little bit made me feel really sick. I'm absolutely certain I would have thrown up if my stomach wasn't fully empty. I basically threw up in emptiness, that's how strong it was.

I did some research after that to understand what had happened and how to reduce the nausea next time. I read about ginger, but I never really needed it and I don't have any at home. It was not a satisfying solution for me. I also read on the forum that some users build up some 'habit', as if their body weren't getting as sick after a while. I thought that it might be what was happening to me, as I had not tripped on MALT for a few months. However, it was still curious to me that I did not get any of that on my very first trips on 5-MeO and on MALT.

So I asked chatGPT for some help, and the last tip it gave me was to : « Avoid Rapid Changes in Position: Sudden movements can trigger nausea, so try to stay still and lie down if needed ».

That was my aha moment. That's what happened to me. It was basically a form of motion sickness.

The two following trips (yesterday and today), I focused on relaxing fully and on not moving at all, not even my arms, my legs or my fingers, for the first 5-10 minutes—pretty much, until the trip really kicks in. And it made such a huge difference. I did feel some discomfort, but the normal kind of discomfort I feel when my consciousness is shifting. I could notice that just some movement was making me feel more sick, while staying completely still reduced any discomfort.

So my advice is: stay still, don't lie down completely at first, and always make sure your stomach is empty of air before taking a substance.

[Recursoinominado]

Clean diet 72h prior (mostly fruits), empty stomach or small fruit before taking it, and ginger tea.

Bonus point for enema before using it.

[Yimpa]

Sometimes, you just got to embrace it.

[Clarence]

I wonder if anyone else has had that realization about motion sickness. It was really a surprise. I had never read about this before.

9 hours ago, Recursoinominado said:

Clean diet 72h prior (mostly fruits)

Have you tried tripping with a clean diet 72h, 48h, 24h prior, and without any change to your diet prior?

Which psychedelics have you tripped on? Have you compared the results with different ones?

I don't plan to change my diet each time before tripping, especially if I trip each week, but I'm curious to know more about your experience and results doing that.

9 hours ago, Yimpa said:

Sometimes, you just got to embrace it.

Sure. But if it can be reduced, you can embrace that too.

[Yimpa]

5 hours ago, Clarence said:

I wonder if anyone else has had that realization about motion sickness. It was really a surprise. I had never read about this before.

Yes. I’ve done ketamine infusions. They gave me the strongest anti nausea medications IV and I still got motion sickness afterwards. 

I also happened to be with my parents after the infusions, so in hindsight I suspect that had something to do with it. Because at that time I had a terrible relationship with them.

Two years later, I’ve learned to embrace my parents.

 

Edited November 2 by Yimpa

[Clarence]

17 hours ago, Yimpa said:

Yes. I’ve done ketamine infusions. They gave me the strongest anti nausea medications IV and I still got motion sickness afterwards. 

I'm not sure if it's the same than I'm describing. I've never tried ketamine so it's hard to tell, and I've never got any discomfort after a trip, it always happens during the come up phase if I have any.

17 hours ago, Yimpa said:

I also happened to be with my parents after the infusions, so in hindsight I suspect that had something to do with it. Because at that time I had a terrible relationship with them.

Maybe it had some influence indeed. Stress and difficult emotions aren't helpful.

17 hours ago, Yimpa said:

Two years later, I’ve learned to embrace my parents.

 

That's great!

[Jowblob]

There are no tips, Nausea happends because your mind/consciousness of your ego isn't ready yet. Nausea represents, sickness/not feeling well/staying at lower levels.

[Clarence]

12 minutes ago, Jowblob said:

There are no tips, Nausea happends because your mind/consciousness of your ego isn't ready yet. Nausea represents, sickness/not feeling well/staying at lower levels.

These are actual tips. If you can't understand what I shared, that's fine.

[Schizophonia]

Ginger.

[Clarence]

2 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Ginger.

I mentioned it in my post.

[Schizophonia]

9 minutes ago, Clarence said:

I mentioned it in my post.

Ah mea culpa.

[Clarence]

2 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Ah mea culpa.

👍

[Clarence]

I have to make a correction.

I had another trip on 4-AcO-DMT on Thursday and I didn't move at all during the come up phase—unlike in my past trips, where I changed location a bit— and this time, I didn't experience any nausea or physical discomfort.

I therefore think that avoiding movement on all psychedelics until the trip sets in is as important for me as being on an empty stomach, and I believe that other psychonauts could benefit from this.

For some reason, moving too soon is extremely nauseating, though I've never suffered from any other kind of motion sickness before, so I'm not particularly sensitive. This feeling is unique to psychedelics.