No Self and God

[PurpleTree]

10 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

 

The point here is that you @Princess Arabia as well as @PurpleTree and @emil1234 have yet not touched the freedom I have. As a consequence, you are still devils who must try to stop the Light Angel that is me right now communicating the message in this forum...

Remember this...The ones who are entangled will never accept a messanger of the one who has seen Freedom.

The ones which are in a prison that they never have seen outside of it will deny those Ones that say there is indeed a way out...

Devils gonna be naughty. Lucky you my whole work is washing off the darkness of as much devils as I can in my last life. 

Don't fight it...you are just slowing down the process. It will happen anyway. 

I don’t have a problem with any of your stuff btw. Yoga, your path etc. It’s all good but when you claim to have some kind of truth i will question it. If you say "seemingly" or imo or something infront of your cow dung truth i’ll stop addressing it.

[Salvijus]

Lol this thread

[emil1234]

10 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

The point here is that you @Princess Arabia as well as @PurpleTree and @emil1234 have yet not touched the freedom I have. As a consequence, you are still devils who must try to stop the Light Angel that is me right now communicating the message in this forum...

Remember this...The ones who are entangled will never accept a messanger of the one who has seen Freedom.

The ones which are in a prison that they never have seen outside of it will deny those Ones that say there is indeed a way out...

Devils gonna be naughty. Lucky you my whole work is washing off the darkness of as much devils as I can in my last life. 

Don't fight it...you are just slowing down the process. It will happen anyway. 

this is indeed the biggest lol ive seen in a while. im lost for words

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, emil1234 said:

this is indeed the biggest lol ive seen in a while. im lost for words

For sure. It's all good, though. Apparent delusion permeates the whole Universe. That's how we have a life.

[Princess Arabia]

31 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Lol this thread

It's the chaotic nature of the Universe, what you expect. Logic and reasoning ain't got nothing on the nature of Reality. Leave that at home if you want to stay sane and join the delusional party.😅

[Javfly33]

7 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

I think that this happen just because humans are a hive entity, not individuals like a cat, we are like gears of the collective matrix. 

It happens because the Substance is trapped in its own mind/limitation/karma and wants to free itself from it. 

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Maybe in other universes there are forms much more complex and deep

The possibility comes from the source, not the form. The form is a representation.

In other words, a human is an imaginary creation of a figment of reality which is close to Realize itself.

An ant is a representation of a figment of reality which still has a lot of cycles to go through. 

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Ok, but then, who stops reincarnating? 

A concrete fragment of reality stops reincarnating.

4 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

I don’t have a problem with any of your stuff btw. Yoga, your path etc. It’s all good but when you claim to have some kind of truth i will question it. If you say "seemingly" or imo or something infront of your cow dung truth i’ll stop addressing it.

@PurpleTree Tell me when I said I have any kind of truth. 

Why you think I still do Yoga every day? Because I think 'I´m done'?

The only reason people here usually do not like my message is because I tell them they are not awake, they are not enlightened at all. But they want to act like they do.

In summary, they want to act as their work is done because they think they have sort it out. Like Princess Arabia, or you with your non-duality talks addiction you think you are 'done'.

I always say this work is about Evolution and Liberation of the Life within. Which is why it DOES NOT END until total limitation and freedom is reached. 

Edited November 1 by Javfly33

[Breakingthewall]

17 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

other words, a human is an imaginary creation of a figment of reality which is close to Realize itself.

An ant is a representation of a figment of reality which still has a lot of cycles to go through

Maybe close to realize itself is another 200 millions of cycles more in different universes. Who knows about the structure of the reality? 

[Ishanga]

On 10/29/2024 at 10:22 PM, The Chosen One said:

I have been wondering about this question for 2 years now but have not found anyone to answer it. Very curious what responses will be given but in reality we have 3 states of consciousness, waking, dreaming, and deep sleep. In the deep sleep state, there is no "I AM" with no pain, no suffering, and no pleasure. When we are talking about awakening or higher levels of consciousness there is something called "nirvana" or No Self the state of no "I AM". Leo has talked about this No Self state in a few of his videos and so has Frank Yang and other spiritual teachers. So my big question is what is the difference between nirvana or "No Self" versus deep sleep because to me they seem like the same exact thing. I don't experience any "I AM" at all in deep sleep.

Also If this human self that I identify with is just an illusion and my ego, desires, and basises are all just an illusion, who is the one trying to wake up if it's not even real? It's not anything that I would identify with because that would be my ego so what is it and how would any awaking be possible at all if there really is No Self?

There's the basic 4, the ones you mention above and the Turiya or high conscious state. The whole point of Spiritual Sadhana and paths is too get to this Turiya state on a consistent basis.. We are Embodied Beings, that means we have a Body/Mind complex, and high Potentials in that, more so than any other life on this planet, and we have to strive for it, like learning ABC or 123, the potential is there always for everyone, but they have to go to school and learn it, that is striving, samething here, if You don't strive for it, then it won't happen Generally, You'll stay only in the cycle of Wake, Draming and Deep Sleep, which is Survival level of Living..

We are basically here to allow Absolute/Existence to experience itself, we are the pawns!

[Breakingthewall]

9 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

In other words, a human is an imaginary creation of a figment of reality which is close to Realize itself

9 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

 

Maybe a human is like an bacteria, and you are not close to being one with the absolute until you are a multidimensional entity that encompasses millions of realities and organizes the interdimensional energy flow between them.

Obviously I just made this up, it's an example to illustrate that we have no fucking idea about anything.

[PurpleTree]

9 hours ago, Javfly33 said: 

@PurpleTree Tell me when I said I have any kind of truth. 

In almost every post. Just check the last page.

[Breakingthewall]

8 hours ago, Ishanga said:

that means we have a Body/Mind complex, and high Potentials in that, more so than any other life on this planet,

Why do you think that a human has more potential that a dolphin, an eagle, a whale? We can't know how is the feeling being them. Maybe even Buddha is much more separate, lack of harmony of those beings that live merged with the life. 

[Princess Arabia]

10 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

In summary, they want to act as their work is done because they think they have sort it out. Like Princess Arabia, or you with your non-duality talks addiction you think you are 'done'.

You are assuming that i'm here to work. You are assuming that I think i'm enlightened. I don't even think there's any such thing. Only to recognize what and who you are. Done? What's there to do but live life. I never started the seeking to become enlightened or awakened. Don't project your beliefs unto me. I'm truly in love with existence and I don't need anything from it. Only to manage staying alive and to feed and clothe myself until I die. I wanted to understand what this is all about and to get to know what Reality is and consciousness and awareness. Not to become enlightened. Not to do something to change myself other than normal self-improvement. Now, from what I've learnt and the information I've gathered I've fell in love with this stuff because of understanding and curiosity. It's marvelous and intriguing, That's all I'm doing here. Investigating and wondering and in awe of the beauty of it all. The mystery. I didn't tell my mom and dad to bring me here and i had no say in it. Why the hell should i worry about getting enlightened. Then what. Huh? Then what. Please tell me. Just to say I'm enlightened. I'm already learning how to not let the mind control me and learning how to love myself and others and to give back to the world the best I can and to be compassionate and kind to others and to give and receive love and to try to guide others in ways that they ask to be guided and for advice. What else do i need to do other than that but to keep living and trying to enjoy the beauty of nature. 

Go ahead and do all your work related themes to get enlightened. I'm over here basking in the beauty of existence through all the pain and suffering of mankind and i don't need to change myself in that respect because I didn't make myself and I'm not in charge of anything Universal. It knows what it's doing and I'm at peace with all that. Anything I do is for the love of it, in this field and not because I'm trying to get somewhere. There's no time and no space so where am I going in the illusory relative world? Take your wisdom elsewhere and to someone else who needs it, I've got the Universe on my side and i don't worship false Gods. I don't need anything other than the light of Awareness that I AM and to go within. It's everywhere I go and I can access it at anytime. I have not forsaken it like you have by trying to look elsewhere for love. I know who I am and you don't that's why you're running around looking for yourself. Good luck with that. I don't care about non-duality and all that. I enjoy watching the videos and I think they are hilarious. I find existence hilarious and fun and exciting. Much more than humans and their bullshit. Including mine. This is not work for me, it's my fucking life. It's what I fucking live for. It's me. What else do i need to do. I'm not lost. I'm right here. 

Edited November 2 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Don't you perceive that human existence is full of barriers, fear, lies, power games, violence, corruption and narcissism? I am also in love with existence, but sometimes the human thing makes me desire violence. It's a impulse that makes me sick, I try to repress or change it for the impulse of making a lot of money, that in some sense is violence too. People is frustrating, are full of shit, if you let them alone they would do something like Auschwitz very easily, torturing people while they laugh and that. There is a thin layer that prevents that. 

 

I am at peace with all that. Sure frustration kicks in and so does all the emotions, but they don't linger longer enough to make a strong impact. They come and rapidly go and I observe them and talk to them and tell them everything is ok.....no matter what. Why wouldn't it be. It pumps my heart and works my liver and kidneys and all my organs out of love. What do I have to be afraid of on a deep level or worry about......only my petty little human bullshit; that's all. That's why I sleep, to take a break and recuperate. It's all done for me.

[Breakingthewall]

20 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I am at peace with all that. Sure frustration kicks in and so does all the emotions, but they don't linger longer enough to make a strong impact. They come and rapidly go and I observe them and talk to them and tell them everything is ok.....no matter what. Why wouldn't it be. It pumps my heart and works my liver and kidneys and all my organs out of love. What do I have to be afraid of on a deep level or worry about......only my petty little human bullshit; that's all. That's why I sleep, to take a break and recuperate. It's all done for me.

Yes it's just frustrating. It's how human society is built, about fun things like tribal war, slavery and exploitation. fear everywhere. don't you smell it? I see it and it clearly . Human society has a disgusting side and I see myself pressing red buttons while I unleash an atomic hecatomb and I see thousands of mushrooms rise into the stratosphere while I laugh with glory, raising my arms like an orchestra conductor shouting: hallelujah! Hallelujah!! 🤣🤣🤣. nah, I'm too soft to launch atomics bombs, even if probably would be much better for the humans. Then let's work 

Edited November 2 by Breakingthewall

[Javfly33]

 

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we have no fucking idea about anything.

@Breakingthewall Because ideas are of the mind.

But going beyond the structure is very real. Is so real that it makes everything else the fantasy. 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

 

@Breakingthewall Because ideas are of the mind.

But going beyond the structure is very real. Is so real that it makes everything else the fantasy. 

How could you know that there is an end of incarnations ? Who incarnates? What happens when the incarnations ends? When they began? Why? Is possible to know such things? 

[Javfly33]

On 1/11/2024 at 10:06 PM, Breakingthewall said:

Maybe close to realize itself is another 200 millions of cycles more in different universes. Who knows about the structure of the reality? 

Is not a mind knowing. The structure of reality simply starts des-attaching itself from memory. 

The substance is empty, it has no limits, no traces, no impressions. Only by identifying it can have an experience. 

I have a human experience is because the glue to the memory works. 

If the 'glue' or the 'cement' is gone, the reality will be gone. Only empty substance is left.

This is not hypothesis. You can experience this meditating or taking the 5-Meo or whatever.

Think meditating or taking 5-MeO as momentarily dissolving the cement. 

And the moment you pick up memory again the 'trip' ends and identification starts again. 

On 2/11/2024 at 7:42 AM, PurpleTree said:

In almost every post. Just check the last page.

That´s your projection. 

22 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

How could you know that there is an end of incarnations ? Who incarnates? What happens when the incarnations ends? When they began? Why? Is possible to know such things? 

You don´t know it, is not something you know like 'Oh, I know at the death I´ll have 72 virgins waiting for me'.

Rather you slowly start to understand how you got yourself into a body.

You start to learn how the glue works, and you start to heat up the glue more and more until you just a left a bit of glue before you are ready to let go. 

You are Reality, if you don´t understand how you picked up your body and mental impressions who is going to know it? You must know how you are getting yourself into this identification constantly. 

Edited November 3 by Javfly33

[Breakingthewall]

34 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

You are Reality, if you don´t understand how you picked up your body and mental impressions who is going to know it? You must know how you are getting yourself into this identification constantly. 

On 2/11/2024 at 9:19 PM, Javfly33 said:

 

@Breakingthewall 

But the reality in one and multiple, then you are the only reality, but same time you have infinite manifestations, then what you know about the structure is 1 divided by infinity, then nothing. You know everything about the substance, because you are it, but nothing about how the things happen because you are an infinitesimal part of that.

Nobody knows about the infinite manifestation because are infinite, then you could think that you understand, but this understanding is a limit, and reality is limitless. You said: I started and I'm going to finish, then I'm not going to have form never more. But who says that is the form, that's limited, and is saying something limited. The manifestation never started and never will end, because it is now to infinity. If you dissapear, I'm here, and me and you are the same without a different mask. You want that your mask dissapear, but another infinite masks are going to remain 

[Javfly33]

On 3/11/2024 at 9:46 PM, Breakingthewall said:

You want that your mask dissapear, but another infinite masks are going to remain 

The "other infinite masks" are just reflections of me, but not truly me, the reflections have the responsibility to find their own freedom, as is mine to find mine. 👍 

I personally have the direct experience of only mask, one body, so naturally I Inspecting how I got myself into the prison cell.

Once I get out I will not go back to other person's prison cells and lock myself with them, its their responsibility to find their own freedom.

Edited November 19 by Javfly33