What should be done about LGBT restrooms?

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

No, it’s not good to be bullied for using the same restroom, but it’s worse to stop seeing someone as a person, and that’s exactly what will happen if LGBTQ individuals get separate toilets.

This is the most irrational statement I've ever heard. 

[Spiritual Warfare]

2 minutes ago, Nemra said:

That is not relevant for this case.

Then, man and women should go to the same restroom.

Why not? Men and women should not use the same restroom. LGBTQ individuals are either men or women. They are not a different species. You make it sound like these individuals are a new species, but they are either women or men. They are just confused.

[Spiritual Warfare]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

This is the most irrational statement I've ever heard. 

That’s unfortunate for you. If we separate people, the sense of community will be lost, and we will no longer see each other as equals.

[Nemra]

2 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Why not? Men and women should not use the same restroom. LGBTQ individuals are either men or women. They are not a different species. You make it sound like these individuals are a new species, but they are either women or men. They are just confused.

You're not trying to understand because you think there're only two genders. That's the problem.

[Princess Arabia]

8 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

That’s unfortunate for you. If we separate people, the sense of community will be lost, and we will no longer see each other as equals.

It even got more irrational with this statement. Separate people? We're not separating people, and I'm not even saying we should allocate or not allocate separate restrooms, I really don't care either way, but how is that separating people. Your arguments for separation is irrational and makes no sense. How about you go tell your neighbor don't separate yourself from me with your fence. We're all people and we should share the same yard. My dog should poop on your lawn because the land isn't separate. It's all one land. Take your fence down.

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Nemra said:

You're not trying to understand because you think there're only two genders. That's the problem.

There are only two genders. Get real. Gender identity does not count as a real gender.

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

It even got more irrational with this statement. Separate people? We're not separating people, and I'm not even saying we should allocate or not allocate separate restrooms, I really don't care either way, but how is that separating people. Your arguments for separation is irrational and makes no sense. How about you go tell your neighbor don't separate yourself from me with your fence. We're all people and we should share the same yard. My dog should poop on your lawn because the land isn't separate. It's all one land. Take your fence down.

It’s like I’m talking to a wall, but somehow the wall is more intelligent than you. Hitler separated Jews from ordinary people, and there were signs that said ‘No Jews Allowed.’ As a result, hatred toward Jews grew, and people did not see them as human beings. The same thing will happen if we say, ‘No trans people allowed; you have your own place.’ Your comparisons are so poor that I feel like I’m losing brain cells.

[Princess Arabia]

19 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Why not? Men and women should not use the same restroom. LGBTQ individuals are either men or women. They are not a different species. You make it sound like these individuals are a new species, but they are either women or men. They are just confused.

Why don't you tell that to the lady that goes in the bathroom with her care dog. That's a special species. Oh, I forgot, that's a different scenario and a different case. Ma'am that's a different species, please leave your little cute male chihuahua service dog outside. You see, we could argue until kingdom come with these oppositions because they are just a matter of opinions. Who cares about your personal opinions when it comes to public issues.

[Nemra]

3 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

There are only two genders. Get real. Gender identity does not count as a real gender.

Gender, not gender identity!

Also, they are constructed.

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Nemra said:

Gender, not gender identity!

Also, they are constructed.

I have never said they are the same. I don’t know why you are trying to catch me in a gotcha moment.

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

It’s like I’m talking to a wall, but somehow the wall is more intelligent than you. Hitler separated Jews from ordinary people, and there were signs that said ‘No Jews Allowed.’ As a result, hatred toward Jews grew, and people did not see them as human beings. The same thing will happen if we say, ‘No trans people allowed; you have your own place.’ Your comparisons are so poor that I feel like I’m losing brain cells.

YOU HAVE JUST DONE WHAT YOU'RE ACCUSING PEOPLE OF. You have attacked my character. Saying your statements are irrational is not the same as you calling me unintelligent - "more intelligent than you", you said. If you noticed, I said your statement was irrational. By me opposing your world view, you have also grown your disdain for me by calling me unintelligent. Using hitler's case is just a matter of different content, but the same outcome, that you yourself perpetrated upon your own fellow forum member. This is what morality does, it turns us into the monsters that we're moralizing against.  You will justify this and reason your way out of it but it's no different. You have also separated me and also see me as a lesser human than you for calling me unintelligent - not my position but me as a person. Your words are written uptop.

[Spiritual Warfare]

8 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Who cares about your personal opinions when it comes to public issues.

Obviously, you did, since you commented to me.

[Nemra]

1 minute ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

I have never said they are the same. I don’t know why you are trying to catch me in a gotcha moment.

I didn't say that they are the same. 😢

[Princess Arabia]

 

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

YOU HAVE JUST DONE WHAT YOU'RE ACCUSING PEOPLE OF. You have attacked my character. Saying your statements are irrational is not the same as you calling me unintelligent - "more intelligent than you", you said. If you noticed, I said your statement was irrational. By me opposing your world view, you have also grown your disdain for me by calling me unintelligent. Using hitler's case is just a matter of different content, but the same outcome, that you yourself perpetrated upon your own fellow forum member. This is what morality does, it turns us into the monsters that we're moralizing against.  You will justify this and reason your way out of it but it's no different. You have also separated me and also see me as a lesser human than you for calling me unintelligent - not my position but me as a person. Your words are written uptop.

Stop gaslighting for your own benefit. Irrational is defined as something that is not intelligent, and I don’t need to use those exact words for anyone to understand it. Just stop the circus. You are upset and only want to attack me instead of listening.

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Nemra said:

I didn't say that they are the same. 😢

Oh my God, I know! But you said that I said it was.

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

 

Thanks.

[Nemra]

1 minute ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Oh my God, I know! But you said that I said it was.

No. 😭

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Spiritual Warfare said:

Stop gaslighting for your own benefit. Irrational is defined as something that is not intelligent, and I don’t need to use those exact words for anyone to understand it. Just stop the circus. You are upset and only want to attack me instead of listening.

"This is the most irrational statement I've ever heard". Those were my exact words. If I had said "This is the most unintelligent statement i've ever heard", that will still not have been a defamation of your character. Saying a wall is more intelligent than I am is. I'm only pointing out to you how you're doing the same thing you're accusing people of, because personally I really don't care if you call me unintelligent. It was to make a point. 

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Nemra said:

No. 😭

Yes, you said that gender is not the same as gender identity.