What should be done about LGBT restrooms?

[Scholar]

@Spiritual Warfare

Just to be clear, you want these guys to walking into women's restrooms:

 

And you want this person to walk into a male restroom:

 

 

Edited October 31 by Scholar

[Spiritual Warfare]

4 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Biological differences don't imply that they should have different restrooms.

 

There are many people who are insecure about their bodies and may judge others negatively. No one wants to be hurt or stared at! People just want to relax and then quickly leave. The risk of assault may increase if there are no separate bathrooms.

 

[Spiritual Warfare]

4 minutes ago, Scholar said:

@Spiritual Warfare

Just to be clear, you want these guys to walking into women's restrooms:

 

And you want this person to walk into a male restroom:

 

 

That is your imagination.

[Nemra]

12 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

It was a joke. You go to the bathroom to urinate or defecate, not to have sex with someone's grandmother or grandfather.

Then, if you want to abolish, abolish for everyone.

You jokingly said something, which is the main problem.

Edited October 31 by Nemra

[Scholar]

2 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

That is your imagination.

You're genuinely irrational, and I don't mean that as an insult. I have noticed this with some of your others posts.

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Scholar said:

You're genuinely irrational, and I don't mean that as an insult. I have noticed this with some of your others posts.

Oh, you calling me irrational? Bold move for someone whose logic has more holes than Swiss cheese.

[Nemra]

4 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

There are many people who are insecure about their bodies and may judge others negatively. No one wants to be hurt or stared at! People just want to relax and then quickly leave. The risk of assault may increase if there are no separate bathrooms.

Why are you twisting what I said?

You just proved why there needs to be a new restroom.

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Nemra said:

Why are you twisting what I said?

You just proved why there needs to be a new restroom.

It feels like we’re speaking two different languages. Yes, this will likely happen, but unfortunately, it has to happen. It will be worse if there are separate toilets, as the sense of community will disappear, and we’ll stop seeing everyone as people. No, it’s not good to be bullied for using the same restroom, but it’s worse to stop seeing someone as a person, and that’s exactly what will happen if LGBTQ individuals get separate toilets.

[Spiritual Warfare]

8 minutes ago, Scholar said:

You're genuinely irrational, and I don't mean that as an insult. I have noticed this with some of your others posts.

I have never said that a man or woman should use the same restroom, but I understand that you may have been dropped as a child, which is why you feel the need to lie about me to boost yourself and make yourself look smart. However, any normally functioning brain can read everything I have written and will understand that I have always said that men and women should use separate restrooms because they are biologically different.

[Nemra]

1 minute ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

It feels like we’re speaking two different languages. Yes, this will likely happen, but unfortunately, it has to happen. It will be worse if there are separate toilets, as the sense of community will disappear, and we’ll stop seeing everyone as people. No, it’s not good to be bullied for using the same restroom, but it’s worse to stop seeing someone as a person, and that’s exactly what will happen if LGBTQ individuals get separate toilets.

Just no.

If the separation is based on discrimination, then yes.

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Nemra said:

Just no.

If the separation is based on discrimination, then yes.

Alright, but then they won’t be seen as human. Humans can also learn to keep quiet. All this money could be used for something more useful instead of catering to someone’s hurt feelings.

[Nemra]

6 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

men and women should use separate restrooms because they are biologically different.

Again, biological differences isn't the problem.

[Nemra]

2 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Alright, but then they won’t be seen as human.

Are you treating women as not human?

Also, did you get what I said "no" to?

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Nemra said:

Again, biological differences isn't the problem.

Many people feel unsafe or uncomfortable using restrooms that don’t match their gender. This can also make it harder for them to express their gender openly because of social norms.

[Spiritual Warfare]

4 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Are you treating women as not human?

 

People who are against LGBTQ individuals may view them as less human if they are given a separate restroom.

[Spiritual Warfare]

6 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Also, did you get what I said "no" to?

Yes, and I gave you an answer to that.

[Nemra]

11 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Many people feel unsafe or uncomfortable using restrooms that don’t match their gender. This can also make it harder for them to express their gender openly because of social norms.

You keep jumping from biological differences to gender saying they don't need but then proving that they need.

9 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

People who are against LGBTQ individuals may view them as less human if they are given a separate restroom.

No. They already view them like that.

Those people create the problem in the first place, which having a new restroom can be the solution.

Edited October 31 by Nemra

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Nemra said:

You keep jumping from biological differences to gender saying they don't need but then proving that they need.

No! They already view them like that.

Those people create the problem in the first place, which having a new restroom can be the solution.

Both options are problematic. Having the same restroom for men and women is bad, but it’s also bad to have separate restrooms. However, in my opinion, if we don’t segregate them, the outcome will be better. It may not be perfect at first, but it will evolve into something more accepted by those who were initially hostile toward LGBTQ individuals. Community is the most important aspect, not separation. Separation is only beneficial temporarily, not all the time.

[Nemra]

17 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Separation is only beneficial temporarily, not all the time.

That is not relevant for this case.

19 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

It may not be perfect at first, but it will evolve into something more accepted by those who were initially hostile toward LGBTQ individuals.

Then, man and women should go to the same restroom.

[Princess Arabia]

These arguments about being special is hogwash. I'm not sure what they prefer, but all I know is that there are handicapped-named bathrooms and parking spaces. Do we cry equality then. We will come up with all types of reasonings and logic why this is OK and should be in place. Those are irrelevant to this issue. They are not special people but they have special needs. Saying there are only two genders is also hogwash because there are people born with both genitals. 

We don't argue for the handicapped because we see them as lesser beings than us. Less privileged and we sympathize. We argue for our own person biases, not what is appropriate or suitable on a whole. Our arguments stem from how we personally feel about the people in question, not what is in the best interest of everyone or most. This is why there are usually conflicting arguments. I don't think they think there special, neither do the handicapped. 

I know a trans personally and she looks like a female all the way, you couldn't tell and she uses the female restrooms. Nobody knows or cares. As far as assault goes, really, is that such a major concern where this issue is concerned. That's just another made-up reasoning because assaults can happen regardless of gender. There are also unisex bathrooms everywhere, do we complain about them saying that's not appropriate. We've accepted those just as we've accepted just about everything else that's been in place for eons.