Youtube completely censor Rogan x Trump Podcast

[Average Actualizer]

1 hour ago, Joshe said:

It's totally possible they censored it and I wouldn't be surprised if they did, but you can't go around saying it's a fact unless you actually know. This careless thinking is probably the #1 cause of delusion. Do it 10,000 times and see where it takes you. Falsehood has a cost. 

The entire twitter was talking about this yesterday, this wasn't my personal opinion, i only shared this on this forum because i didn't see anyone else talk about it (someone actually mentioned it today in the original thread about the interview), the only reason why they removed censorship was because Musk and Rogan complained.

[Average Actualizer]

1 hour ago, What Am I said:

Yeah, stating it as a cold hard fact can be a dangerous game. If the argument is instead made with an appropriate amount of qualifiers and nuance, it'd probably end up being more useful towards an effort in understanding the truth.

It is a fact that it was censored, we can talk about what was the point of it considering they removed the censorship a day later after everyone complained on twitter, but to say that the video wasn't censored is denial, i can understand if you didn't directly see it yesterday when it happend so you may be skeptical, but if you tried it yourself at the time you would agree, it wasn't questionable considering how blatant it was, you can only argue that youtube didn't mean to do it but i just haven't heard any sensible arguments for that.

[What Am I]

1 minute ago, Average Actualizer said:

It is a fact that it was censored, we can talk about what was the point of it considering they removed the censorship a day later after everyone complained on twitter, but to say that the video wasn't censored is denial, i can understand if you didn't directly see it yesterday when it happend so you may be skeptical, but if you tried it yourself at the time you would agree, it wasn't questionable considering how blatant it was, you can only argue that youtube didn't mean to do it but i just haven't heard any sensible arguments for that.

Sure, I did try it out yesterday, and I noticed it wasn't showing up in the search results, depending on which search terms were used. And then I noticed it is showing up today, pretty much regardless of the search terms. The timing does seem suspicious. It's annoying that we're left with uncertainty around the exact cause.

[Yimpa]

U  C what U Fing want to C.

UFC.

[Joshe]

1 hour ago, Average Actualizer said:

The entire twitter was talking about this yesterday, this wasn't my personal opinion, i only shared this on this forum because i didn't see anyone else talk about it (someone actually mentioned it today in the original thread about the interview), the only reason why they removed censorship was because Musk and Rogan complained.

Well, it must be true since all of Twitter said it was. I wonder how much those Twitter posts contributed to your conviction? Instead of claiming it's a fact, why not just say you think it's highly likely? I myself would put it at 50/50 because I just don't know enough. I wonder if the collective right would put it at 95/5. 

All of your evidence is anecdotal and you still haven't explained how the YT search algorithm works. You're claiming to KNOW how that highly complex mechanism works. Think about that. 

Edited October 29 by Joshe

[Consept]

2 hours ago, Average Actualizer said:

You won't get banned if you tweet how bad Teslas are. Yes youtube won't ban you if you critisize them either but there are things on youtube you can't critisize unlike on twitter where it's more free even tho twitter has biased restrictions too.

I don't think that the experiment failed really, the people who are running away from twitter are mostly leftists and they run away because they get to face the right talking to them now, before Musk there were no right-aligned viewes on twitter and if there were they were basically supressed, it was a left echo-chamber, for me twitter is better than ever before (other than bots and porn that gets spammed, but if you don't interact with those types of posts they stop showing up). And you could say that twitter is now a right echo-chamber (even tho i would disagree because i don't think the left gets censored now nowhere near as much as right did before Musk) but even if that was true it would just balance other major social media platforms that are left echo chambers, like Instagram, Youtube and Facebook.

Musk regularly bans those he doesn't agree with- https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/x-journalist-ban-elon-musk-b2476153.html

The experiment failed by every metric, financially it's down according to some estimates by 80%, usership is down, new users are down, ad spend is way down, literally in every way it's failing. He's also artificially promoting his and other accounts he likes tweets. 

Every platform has to have blanket regulations, preventing hate speech, incitements of violence etc otherwise the site becomes unusable for the average user, this is what's happening with X. You seem to have a bias toward the right, which is fine but it's blinding you to the reality. 

[Yimpa]

It is now fixed

https://variety.com/2024/digital/news/youtube-search-results-joe-rogan-donald-trump-interview-1236193077/

[What Am I]

34 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

It is now fixed

https://variety.com/2024/digital/news/youtube-search-results-joe-rogan-donald-trump-interview-1236193077/

Strange that YouTube didn't at least give some kind of explanation beyond acknowledging it wasn't visible when searching. That leaves the door open to allow for continued speculation. And for many, their lack of explanation could itself be seen as further evidence of deliberate censorship.

Edited October 31 by What Am I

[zazen]

 

[Schizophonia]

On 28/10/2024 at 11:11 PM, PurpleTree said:

It’s funny how angry some of you guys are during election time.

Humans are not supposed to construct their ego on a such things as politic, there is no politic (on the same extent) in nature ; So given that it's not tangible enough for our energetic system, if it happens for some reasons the believe system will take a lot of energy to maintain itself and it will be manifested as aggression.

Also, OP certainly exaggerates but it's common for far left people to be particularly full of themselves and use their power as much as possible to cancel people with whom they do not agree.

Idealists, far right like far left in different ways, want to impose their fantasist paradigm and it makes them lunatic. 

Edited October 31 by Schizophonia

[Scholar]

On 28.10.2024 at 9:21 PM, Average Actualizer said:

When you search up "trump joe rogan" or anything along those lines the video doesn't show up, clips and reactions from people and media show up but the podcast itself doesn't.

The only way to find the podcast is by literally searching the name letter by letter/copy pasting it or searching Joe Rogan's channel and then finding it.

Of course Youtube has been known for censorship but i don't think they were ever this blatant with it, especially considering it already crossed 30 million views, is in trending in most countries and is already the 3rd most viewed Joe Rogan podcast on Youtube.

Is this not election interference considering Youtube is the 2nd biggest website after Google? How can this be excused?

Stuff like this is the reason why people vote for Trump or why people side with anyone that gets blatantly censored in general, i think this is a big mistake on their part and will create the opposite effect of what they were hoping for, at least if they were more subtle with it maybe it wouldn't be noticed, but when it's cut and clear it will fire people up.

When I search this the first video I get is the podcast.

[Average Actualizer]

https://youtu.be/7qZl_5xHoBw&t=23m57s

Joe and Elon talk about the youtube censorship that happend on the Trump interview