Ethical Dilemma of Non-Intervention

[Spiritual Warfare]

3 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

No it's not a miracle.

You don't know how many atheists are in my country right now.

I was also one of them for a long time.

As I've said; you're just assuming stuff you don't know much about right now.

I know history. You are the minority, so don’t be so angry or surprised that I judge you.

[Atb210201]

Just now, Spiritual Warfare said:

I know history. You are the minority, so don’t be so angry or surprised that I judge you.

Are you living in my country or am I living in it?

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Atb210201 said:

Are you living in my country or am I living in it?

I don’t need to live in your country to know whether it is a minority or majority. I’m not saying you’re lying about not believing in God, but you have to understand that the majority there believes in God.

[Atb210201]

Just now, Spiritual Warfare said:

I don’t need to live in your country to know whether it is a minority or majority. I’m not saying you’re lying about not believing in God, but you have to understand that the majority there believes in God.

No you just don't want to accept being wrong Sometimes or even ever.

I've not yet been able to see you accept being wrong on this forum ever.

Maybe I'm wrong and you did but I haven't seen it yet.

[Spiritual Warfare]

2 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

No you just don't want to accept being wrong Sometimes or even ever.

I've not yet been able to see you accept being wrong on this forum ever.

Maybe I'm wrong and you did but I haven't seen it yet.

This is so embarrassing. You don’t need to be the smartest of them all to understand that many people believe in God in Iran. Google is free, you can start there.

[Atb210201]

Just now, Spiritual Warfare said:

This is so embarrassing. You don’t need to be the smartest of them all to understand that many people believe in God in Iran. Google is free, you can start there.

OK whatever you say.

All I cared about was you made a hasty assumption about me which you couldn’t ever know.

So it's not about Iran at all.

 

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Atb210201 said:

OK whatever you say.

All I cared about was you made a hasty assumption about me which you couldn’t ever know.

So it's not about Iran at all.

 

Okay, I see I was apparently wrong, which is why I said you shouldn’t be angry at me for judging you like that, since the majority are religious.

[Atb210201]

Just now, Spiritual Warfare said:

Okay, I see I was apparently wrong.

This is all I care about thank you.

[Yimpa]

We focus on trying to solve other people’s suffering without realizing who is causing the suffering to begin with. And we repeatedly have to lie to ourselves how much suffering is actually going on as a way to cope with having to actually face it…

Edited October 28 by Yimpa

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, zurew said:

Okay, so its not an objective value claim but it is a subjective value claim

This is a dubious distinction that only exists at lower states of consciousness.

[zurew]

48 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

This is a dubious distinction that only exists at lower states of consciousness.

Thats cool, but thats not an answer to the question.

What does the proposition's truth value is dependent on?  (proposition is 'everything is perfect')

Surely you dont want to claim that it suddenly becomes false just because it is evaluated from a lower state of consciousness. Surely you want to say something like - it is true regardless from what level of consciousness the proposition is evaluated from.

[Leo Gura]

9 hours ago, zurew said:

Surely you dont want to claim that it suddenly becomes false just because it is evaluated from a lower state of consciousness.

Surely I do.

[zurew]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Surely I do

Do you put "you are God" in the same category?

[TreyMoney]

On 28/10/2024 at 1:55 PM, Atb210201 said:

Everything is not perfect as it is.

The world is not perfect as it is.

We can make the imperfect world better if we want.

God is perfect.

The material world is not.

I agree with you @Atb210201 100%

The Absolute (or God if you prefer) is perfect. 

But we live in the Relative which is dualistic and imperfect. 

And in the Relative we cycle through experiences of hell, animal, human, heaven, demi-god, and hungry ghosts. 

We can work on reducing how extreme these cycles are, in ourselves first, and in society at as a result.