Ethical Dilemma of Non-Intervention

[Kairos]

If everything is perfect as it is, is it ever ethical to intervene in the suffering of others?

When should a spiritually awakened person engage with social issues, and when should they let go ? 

If everything is love even Evil .Why do you than criticize people like Trump,tate or anyone for that sake. Since they're part of God too....why do you want to change them ?

Just for personal satisfaction ?? Just because in your mind you've created this sense of right and wrong in your mind which of course is the function of your survival agenda of your material self . 

just curious

 

 

[Leo Gura]

From the absolute perspective nothing matters. But from a relative perspective it is much better to not elect Hitler than to elect Hilter. Life is a lot less pleasant under Hitler.

[Schizophonia]

39 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

From the absolute perspective nothing matters. But from a relative perspective it is much better to not elect Hitler than to elect Hilter. Life is a lot less pleasant under Hitler.

It depends on who.

[zurew]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

From the absolute perspective nothing matters

When you say stuff like "everything is perfect" that supposed to be an absolute value claim and not a relative one, right?

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, zurew said:

When you say stuff like "everything is perfect"

That is true from a certain very high trans-human state of consciousness.

It is true from God's POV.

Edited October 28 by Leo Gura

[Schizophonia]

Reproaching to people to being neutral is the beginning of an totalitarian paradigm.

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

It depends on who.

Who's life was better?

[Abe27]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Who's life was better?

the nazis, and hitler, i hope since they are in power. In this society they are quite repressed

[Schizophonia]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Who's life was better?

I think it's all polarity and there are automatically "positive points" to Nazism. 
Then it's all a question of persona.

 

[Schizophonia]

2 minutes ago, Abe27 said:

the nazis, and hitler, i hope since they are in power. In this society they are quite repressed

No, everybody somehow benefits of nazism.

This is a very yang system, which pushes people to be very feminine. That is to say, to prefer the security and comfort of not having a choice. The more masculine personas who do not succeed or do not want to go to power will ultimately reject it.

[Leo Gura]

13 minutes ago, Abe27 said:

the nazis, and hitler

No. Their lives were miserable. It was a disaster for all involved.

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

No. Their lives were miserable. It was a disaster for all involved.

After Hitler’s death or when the war was happening? I think it may have been different for many.

 

[zurew]

57 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That is true from a certain very high trans-human state of consciousness.

It is true from God's POV.

Okay, so its not an objective value claim (something that is true regardless of the attitude, beliefs, preferences of any subject), but it is a subjective value claim (the truth value of the statement/judgement is depended on a subject's attitude or preference) - in this case that special subject would be God. In other words - changing the subject can change the truth value of that statement.

Is that something you would agree with or you would characterize it differently? 

[Atb210201]

3 hours ago, Kairos said:

If everything is perfect as it is, is it ever ethical to intervene in the suffering of others?

When should a spiritually awakened person engage with social issues, and when should they let go ? 

If everything is love even Evil .Why do you than criticize people like Trump,tate or anyone for that sake. Since they're part of God too....why do you want to change them ?

Just for personal satisfaction ?? Just because in your mind you've created this sense of right and wrong in your mind which of course is the function of your survival agenda of your material self . 

just curious

 

 

Everything is not perfect as it is.

The world is not perfect as it is.

We can make the imperfect world better if we want.

God is perfect.

The material world is not.

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Atb210201 said:

Everything is not perfect as it is.

The world is not perfect as it is.

We can make the imperfect world better if we want.

God is perfect.

The material world is not.

You speak separately. God is matter.

[Atb210201]

9 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

You speak separately. God is matter.

No He isn't.

We've talked about it before.

Edited October 28 by Atb210201

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Atb210201 said:

No He isn't.

You have grown up believing in a separate God, which must be broken down. It is impossible for God to be apart from anything. God can only create separation for the moment, but at the deepest level, everything is connected.

[Atb210201]

9 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

You have grown up believing in a separate God, which must be broken down. It is impossible for God to be apart from anything. God can only create separation for the moment, but at the deepest level, everything is connected.

I have grown up believing in no God.

And also I've grown up believing God is matter some years ago just like you.

You don't know anything about how I've grown up.

Don't make hasty assumptions brother.

Edited October 28 by Atb210201

[Spiritual Warfare]

5 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

I have grown up believing in no God.

You don't know anything about how I've grown up.

Don't make hasty assumptions brother.

If you grew up in a Muslim country and do not believe in God, that is a miracle.

[Atb210201]

1 minute ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

If you grew up in a Muslim country and do not believe in God, that is a miracle.

No it's not a miracle.

You don't know how many atheists are in my country right now.

I was also one of them for a long time.

As I've said; you're just assuming stuff you don't know much about right now.