How can I become a full time Yogui no bullshit

[Javfly33]

This idea of going to a house I have in the mountains on an almost unpopulated village (20 people) is really growing on me. Is been growing on my mind for the past year and since I got fired from work is even more clear.

I see myself looking for Jobs and I dont see the point, why Keep spending time and energy in works that i absolutely dont care at all.

Also I dont even almost save money even from this Jobs, so basically im working to afford a living on a city.

Additionally is been a while since I took advantage of Being in a city, before i used to go out but some time ago i realized i have no interest in what society sells me as interesting, which is spending, socializing and having material experiences.

 

My plan with becoming a full time Yogui would be to create a special high quality spiritual teaching based on my 24/7 Focus on sadhana, the Only issue is that i see this very difficult to monetize. Especially because i want it to be authentic and real, I want to offer real value to people.

The idea would be to generate some cash flow from an online platform and m then if things become big i want to build a proper retreat since I have terrain)

 

I need realistic ideas in how can I make this work. 

Edited October 28 by Javfly33

[Schizophonia]

Most yogis inflict themselves with undernutrition and a horrible vegan diet to induce a hypothyroid state to satisfy their lifestyle, which is why they often seem to suffer from dementia.

Most white men, or from developed countries in general, who have this serious/spiritual posture are in fact more or less neurotic and have in fact an abnormally passive and feminine psyche.

Anyway, i don't know you and you do what you want anyway, i'm just saying that like that; I want to become a big construction worker like my father and earn as much money as possible for myself.
I want a tall girlfriend, a big car (several ?), a big house, trips, to eat well etcetc 😎

Edited October 28 by Schizophonia

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

very difficult to monetize. Especially because i want it to be authentic and real, I want to offer real value to people.

 

No, you can create a small center to learn people meditation, yoga and things like that ; You can even write little books and send them to your clients lol.

But you have to accept your mercantile agenda ; Always the same story. 

Edited October 28 by Schizophonia

[Lyubov]

It seems very half baked what you wrote here to be honest. why not take some time to just get in touch with yourself and what you really want. start writing it out. remember, balance is key. why do yo think some radical yogi lifestyle is for you? I've found from my experience such things don't actually make me more spiritual. If you are wanting to be more authentic and true, why not look at what you're doing now which is preventing that? You can use Claude to help you brainstorm. I would get really clear on your path and build a strong relationship with your inner child and your spiritual side and find some balance. You clearly don't like this tech work. But you do need money to survive and pay bills. What could you do to align the flow of money more with what you genuinely enjoy and brings you passion? 

[Davino]

@Javfly33 If you truly desire that

You'll have to work a lot to make yourself financially independent

That's what Leo did

That's what I'll be doing for the next decade

Why?

Because I truly want to do what you are saying and I understand what that truly entails

[puporing]

I would advise finding paid work that is still "of this world" that aligns well with your spiritual pursuits. Short of that, you could also try creative ways to reduce expenses, like living minimally. 

Problem with tying your income with being a spiritual teacher is that it tends to corrupt it, because you'll be chasing clicks or something that can be of monetary value from your followers one way or another. 

I mean if you think about it, if everyone here suddenly became a "spiritual teacher" and tried to make money off of it, you will quickly run out of people. 

And personally, I just don't really agree with exchanging of money with spiritual teaching.. coz where I'm at.. if someone were interested in reaching my state, they'd be an equal soon enough. Not to mention that almost nobody even wants to reach this state lol .

Edited October 28 by puporing

[Davino]

You could become a yoga teacher and make your own centre

Edited October 28 by Davino

[Schizophonia]

5 minutes ago, puporing said:

 

Problem with tying your income with being a spiritual teacher is that it tends to corrupt it, because you'll be chasing clicks or something that can be of monetary value from your followers one way or another. 

 

It's all the opposite.

If you don't ask money it means that you try taking power (energy) by being admired or something like that ; A psychically regressive way of express libido, and it's there that most drifts appear.   

 

[puporing]

5 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

It's all the opposite.

If you don't ask money it means that you try taking power (energy) by being admired or something like that ; A psychically regressive way of express libido, and it's there that most drifts appear.   

 

That's an interesting viewpoint, I don't think teachers who take money would be an exception to that though.

I personally drift away when teachers keep enforcing the payment issue, it implies that I am not their equal.

Edited October 28 by puporing

[Schizophonia]

47 minutes ago, puporing said:

That's an interesting viewpoint,

Thank you.

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I don't think teachers who take money would be an exception to that though.

I personally drift away when teachers keep enforcing the payment issue, it implies that I am not their equal.

You have the right to live, if you produce something it's normal you gain money in return.

You have said somewhere that you gain your bread by "managing airbnb", that's not something that ask you lots of efforts and implication so why would you be paid for that ? Btw you are not payed well ahah ; The website that you have created actually asked more love and its logical that you could gain money from it.

Actually a free content is automatically seen as low value so you don't will have less clients anyway by not charging.

Of course your clients are not your equal, and you are not equal to a construction worker when it comes to repairing toilets.

Spirituality is not above repairing toilets, not at all.

Edited October 28 by Schizophonia

[puporing]

@Schizophonia We are not getting anywhere coz we are talking to each other from pretty different states. Even if some one were to pay me lots of money I am not just going to "take anyone".  

I have actually turned down people who offered to pay me. 

Money is not my goal with this particular work, especially when people who truly need my help (could also be in some other fashion not strictly as a spiritual teacher) are usually poor.

If I was truly struggling with survival like about to put on the street I would probably just say so.

As to Airbnb, it is quite a bit of work for what you get paid for, maybe not like a McD's worker I guess, in my case anyway. I also do some side jobs and back in school atm.

The thing is that, if someone more well off were interested to pay me for my time or whatever, and they're close to my state, it would be more like a "donation" anyway. 

Edited October 28 by puporing

[Lyubov]

I think money is fine for one on one consultations on spirituality, it just depends how you conduct yourself, are you doing so with honesty or integrity? Are you warping your integrity and honesty in favor of your survival? Some people do this while offering information based products, so these are the teachers I try to avoid. It's also the reason why their information products like their youtube videos may not actually be half bad. It's one thing to cognitively recognize truth and preach and it's another to embody it and live it. If you are really living in your flow and living in the moment, acting on what you've found to be true, it's definitely a very helpful vocation for the world to offer counseling and consultations, your perspective and guidance could be the breakthrough someone needs to further develop themselves or resolve a problem in their life. If you've just had a bunch of radical perspective and perception changes, what many people label mystical experiences due to meditation and psychedelics and you haven't actually really built an unbelievably beautiful and truthful day to day life, chances are you won't really be able to help anyone with their spirituality. It takes a good bit of maturity to really build something like this without it being a new age scam. 

Edited October 28 by Lyubov

[Javfly33]

21 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

 

Most white men, or from developed countries in general, who have this serious/spiritual posture are in fact more or less neurotic and have in fact an abnormally passive and feminine psyche.

 

bro stop HAHAHA

 

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I want to become a big construction worker like my father and earn as much money as possible for myself.
 

What I want to do does not come neurotic or femenine (I don´t want to starve myself LOL) but def I have to accept I´m not that 'guy' either. 

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I want a tall girlfriend, a big car (several ?), a big house, trips, to eat well etcetc 😎

Well, that I do want. 

 

21 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

No, you can create a small center to learn people meditation, yoga and things like that ; You can even write little books and send them to your clients lol.

But you have to accept your mercantile agenda ; Always the same story. 

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16 hours ago, Davino said:

@Javfly33 If you truly desire that

You'll have to work a lot to make yourself financially independent

That's what Leo did

That's what I'll be doing for the next decade

Why?

Because I truly want to do what you are saying and I understand what that truly entails

Nice bro!! 

I thought also in holding a space for people taking psychedelics in nature but without the shamanic aspect to it. Kind of like a trip sitter but that doesn´t interact with the people that are tripping.

Edited October 29 by Javfly33

[Ulax]

@Javfly33 You could do the unified mindfulness (UM) training and the you become a certified UM teacher. UM is Shinzen Youngs organisation. They’ll then advertise you on their website.

Then you can get clients and do say hourly sessions with them. You could set limits on your client numbers as you start out and do it part time.
That way you can gain experience teaching meditation but with less extreme demands that going full time would entail.

 

Then later down the road you can setup your own full time gig from a place of better experience and understanding.