How to become Infinite

[Javfly33]

If you surrender knowing, you'll have everything, what was closed and limited will become open and unlimited.

You can not grasp what this present moment is, or explain it, the time you do it you just limited it therefore you close it, therefore duality and ego.

So let go of grasping this or thinking you know what you are or what this present moment is, surrender knowing fully, as an ultimate leap of faith, then what is real beyond knowing will remain. 

[Ishanga]

3 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

If you surrender knowing, you'll have everything, what was closed and limited will become open and unlimited.

You can not grasp what this present moment is, or explain it, the time you do it you just limited it therefore you close it, therefore duality and ego.

So let go of grasping this or thinking you know what you are or what this present moment is, surrender knowing fully, as an ultimate leap of faith, then what is real beyond knowing will remain. 

As the Man says, identity with Your Ignorance rather than Knowledge as our Ignorance is much more than Knowledge will ever be!

[Javfly33]

1 hour ago, Ishanga said:

As the Man says, identity with Your Ignorance rather than Knowledge as our Ignorance is much more than Knowledge will ever be!

Yes, fully drowning in the ignorance, and staying there, thats what you are. 

[Schizophonia]

My mentor Franck Lopvet plays with his clairvoyance siddhi and admitted having experienced omniscience for several days.  

Edited October 27 by Schizophonia

[Will1125]

You are already infinite you are trying to become something you are already isnt it funny

[Breakingthewall]

There is something that the ego hates and that if you realize it, the ego will begin to work against it. is that everything you know, your level of consciousness, even the level of consciousness of an interdimensional alien entity of unimaginable magnitude is exactly the same as the level of consciousness of a worm. There is no difference, it seems like it is more but it is not, the only level of consciousness is the total being, and it is the same, a proton is the same as an entire universe.

14 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

admitted having experienced omniscience for several days.  

Omniscience means know what you are. Without limits there is nothing else to know, anything is the same than another thing, there is not bigger or smaller, higher or lower, there is the illusion of knowing things or the realization that anything in comparison with infinity dissapear, then there is only one knowing: what you are, your nature, and it's the nature of everything. 

[Ishanga]

9 minutes ago, Will1125 said:

You are already infinite you are trying to become something you are already isnt it funny

Yes, but there is this thing we call "Process" its in that process that Absolute experiences itself, without a process, or duality or form, then no Absolute knowing/experiencing itself, that is why we are here.. the process is as important as the Absolute, don't deny it or look down on it, as it is needed..

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, Ishanga said:

As the Man says, identity with Your Ignorance rather than Knowledge as our Ignorance is much more than Knowledge will ever be!

That's false, there is not ignorance, it's a mentality of lack. The thing is different, but sadhguru is confused, too much indian religion in his mind.

The point is much simpler: absolute knowledge is obvious, you could be omniscient in any moment. It's knowing what you are. You must be totally open to it, and there is no more, it's the nature of everything. 

Then, relative knowledge means nothing, and relative ignorance means nothing. In infinity any relative thing that you know is zero in comparison with infinite things, and the same with the things that you ignore. They doesn't mean nothing, knowing and ignoring are the same, an illusion, because in infinity there is nothing to know, then nothing to ignore. If sadhguru said that, he's very confused. I think he believes he's an explorer of the occult. He should know that the occult is the same than knowing all the brothels of my city from an absolute perspective: nothing. Zero. Illusion. Sadhguru only speak illusions, his knowledge about existence is the same from an absolute perspective that my knowledge of grow weed: nothing. But he's so proud of knowing his past lifes and that. He's a champion, let's admire him 😭🤣 he's fake, one day you will realize 

Edited October 27 by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

4 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Yes, but there is this thing we call "Process" its in that process that Absolute experiences itself, without a process, or duality or form, then no Absolute knowing/experiencing itself, that is why we are here.. the process is as important as the Absolute, don't deny it or look down on it, as it is needed..

That is wrong. The absolute doesn't need to know itself, and doesn't need any experience, but cant avoid it because there are not limits. If the absolute would need anything, it would achieved it infinite times in eternity. The experience, the relative reality, is just a inevitable reflection of the absolute. Means absolutely nothing. Nothing could have any meaning in infinity, it's absolutely obvious. Only the ego need meaning. 

[Ishanga]

@Breakingthewall What I've learned is that whatever anyone says here is just a Potential, its legit and varied and possible, truth is just about the Potential, one can say and believe as You believe, that is okay, I can differ in what I believe and understand, that is okay, its all Potential..

What is not okay is too have a concrete conclusion, then Your stuck, limited, boxed in, "I know now", as Javfly said, once You think You know, then its over, no more ability to grow, potential stops..

[Breakingthewall]

26 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

What is not okay is too have a concrete conclusion, then Your stuck, limited, boxed in, "I know now", as Javfly said, once You think You know, then its over, no more ability to grow, potential stops..

It's absolutely obvious, there is not the slightest doubt, you could agree or not. It's not a psychedelic realization, it's something extremely simple. To understand it first you have to open yourself to your true nature, to what you are. When you do it you realize that you always have known this, when you were a kid was obvious, then as you grow starts to be more and more veiled by the character, the self. Then you know everything, because you know what existence is, and this is absolute plenitude. It's the point a) absolute realization.

Then you understand the point B) , relative realization. There is nothing to know in the relative because everything is ultimately the same, and there are not Limits . Then, knowing a lot is the same than knowing small. What a rat knows is the same than Leo gura knows about the relative: nothing. It's infinite, then if sadhguru knows his last million of incarnation it's the same to know my address, there is no difference. Imagine that you are monkey in the jungle screaming and eating bananas, you know the same than sadhguru. You exist, that's it. Then you don't ignore nothing, there is nothing to ignore, because all the infinite relative is the same: it exists, period. This is extremely anticlimactic for the ego, but it's impossible to deny.

And it's not like you are lost in infinity knowing nothing, opposite, you are at home, you are that, and you know everything , you are omniscient and omnipotent: you exist. There is nothing else. 

[Ishanga]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

It's absolutely obvious, there is not the slightest doubt, you could agree or not. It's not a psychedelic realization, it's something extremely simple. To understand it first you have to open yourself to your true nature, to what you are. When you do it you realize that you always have known this, when you were a kid was obvious, then as you grow starts to be more and more veiled by the character, the self. Then you know everything, because you know what existence is, and this is absolute plenitude. It's the point a) absolute realization.

Then you understand the point B) , relative realization. There is nothing to know in the relative because everything is ultimately the same, and there are not Limits . Then, knowing a lot is the same than knowing small. What a rat knows is the same than Leo gura knows about the relative: nothing. It's infinite, then if sadhguru knows his last million of incarnation it's the same to know my address, there is no difference. Imagine that you are monkey in the jungle screaming and eating bananas, you know the same than sadhguru. You exist, that's it. Then you don't ignore nothing, there is nothing to ignore, because all the infinite relative is the same: it exists, period. This is extremely anticlimactic for the ego, but it's impossible to deny.

And it's not like you are lost in infinity knowing nothing, opposite, you are at home, you are that, and you know everything , you are omniscient and omnipotent: you exist. There is nothing else. 

Sounds Good!

[Javfly33]

 

 

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

The point is much simpler: absolute knowledge is obvious, you could be omniscient in any moment. It's knowing what you are. You must be totally open to it, and there is no more, it's the nature of everything. 

How can you 'know' what you are?

Whatever you think is limited, therefore It can not be you. 

Ignorance sounds negative but is where the gold is. 

 

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

To understand it first you have to open yourself to your true nature, to what you are. When you do it you realize that you always have known this

What is the true nature? 

What is what you are?

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always have known this,

What is it that you known?

[Breakingthewall]

16 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

How can you 'know' what you are?

Whatever you think is limited, therefore It can not be you. 

Because it's not a though, it's simply the absolute. It's impossible to think because thinking is relative, is putting an idea in relationship with another. The absolute is absolute, can't be thought. 

 

16 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

What is the true nature? 

What is what you are?

You could use the word existence, but it's just a word. What you are is what you are. Obviously you are, then, erase everything except "are". It's like a skill, you have to be able to open yourself totally, no more you, no more nothing, like you are a fetus, then you realize. 

 

2 hours ago, Ishanga said:

Sounds Good!

Sounds obvious right? Of course, it's good to minimize the suffering of the humans, evolve to more empathy, more conciousness, love between humans and all that, and it's bad be like Hitler , but both are in the relative realm . And it's a reality that more "evil" you are, more thick is the self, then more difficult to open yourself to the absolute, but here we are not trying to fix the world, we are trying to understand the human mind to be able to open ourselves to the real thing. Then, as a consequence, good behavior appears I guess always, but from an absolute perspective good and bad are equal, it's important to understand that to don't close the door

Edited October 27 by Breakingthewall

[Ishanga]

@Breakingthewall I recommend You take a break from the forum, Your writtings are in circles and it will drive You nuts trying to think this all the time, and figure it out or not figure it out or know it or not know it and all this intellectual stuff, just do what You do to put Yourself in what You consider Good! 

Peace...

[Breakingthewall]

29 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

What is it that you known?

What you are. It's a weird twisted thing because you aren't a you, but still that's what you are. You are what is, the being. It's absolutely indefinite but same time it's everything.

Realize this moment, it is, then erase any interpretation, any barrier with your unconscious, totally open yourself without any fear, then for a while, some minutes, you could be absolutely limitless, formless, then the you, the human, realizes that what you really are is the unlimited being, it's not that the unlimited being realizes it, the unlimited being don't need to realize anything, it's always , you could be open to it, but still you are you, a human, who sees what is the nature of reality and sees it's nature as relative transitory form, irrelevant in comparison with the substance 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Ishanga said:

@Breakingthewall I recommend You take a break from the forum, Your writtings are in circles and it will drive You nuts trying to think this all the time, and figure it out or not figure it out or know it or not know it and all this intellectual stuff, just do what You do to put Yourself in what You consider Good! 

Peace...

I thought you said good! Being sincere 🤣🤣🤣🤣. You can't understand anything, and you are not noble. The door can't be open to you. Be happy with your Jesus Christ. 

Maybe someone could understand what I said . It's frustrating, it's obvious. 

1 hour ago, Ishanga said:

recommend You take a break from the forum

Anyone asked you any recommendation? Maybe I did and I forgot. Thank you anyway blind man. 

Let's put some candles to Shiva and let's remember some incarnations. Then....let's make money!

Edited October 27 by Breakingthewall

[Davino]

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How to become Infinite

30mg of 5-MeO-DMT in your butt

 

That one is ezzz

We can make an empirical test. How many humans realize they are actually Infinity by 5meo and by other methods. I'm happy to bet my house on this one!

[Breakingthewall]

35 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

@Breakingthewall I recommend You take a break from the forum, Your writtings are in circles and it will drive You nuts trying to think this all the time, and figure it out or not figure it out or know it or not know it and all this intellectual stuff, just do what You do to put Yourself in what You consider Good! 

Peace...

Really you made me angry haha. I try to do my best explaining something real. Maybe I wasn't polite talking about sadhguru, really I see the falsehood in him, I can't avoid. I shouldn't be so aggressive describing him, but anyway, who cares? I thought for a moment that you understood and that you was enough noble to admit it even I talked bad about sadhguru, that would mean that you are above of the personal and you are focused in the truth. Vain hopes, anyway, it's stupid getting angry chatting here. I'm done with you , you are of the team a against the team b, then no communication is possible except worship together sadhguru 😅. Bye

[Breakingthewall]

21 minutes ago, Davino said:

30mg of 5-MeO-DMT in your butt

It doesn't work. I ve done 5meo a lot, hundreds of times . there is always a deception in it. I think it's because it's forced. It's very subtle, but the self is still there , even vaping 30 mg. You are open but the self is still there, disguised by god, or by anything. I always had that intuition, something was....let's say impure, not absolutely clear. It's a great help to force yourself to the openess, but at the end you have to do sober