Is it possible to fully trust someone in a relationship?

[Genius100x]

I have seen many cases where people who are trusted deeply betray their partners. 

This puts me into dilemma : 

Should a person stop doubting so that a high quality relationship is maintained? 

OR

Should they be overly cautious because cheaters are way too smart. (It's a smartness competition) ? 

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Especially if the person is in an intelligence agency or military, how can they ever stop doubting? There are so many badass honey traps. You'll spend 50 years with your partner and you'll never be able to know their truth. 

Recently we have seen the case of Gisèle Pelicot. She trusted her husband so much. She considered him such a great husband. For 50 years. And what she discovers then? 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/france-mass-rape-trial-gisele-pelicot-dominique-macron-law-change-rcna176741

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So what's the solution to this problem? I want some discussion. 

Edited October 26 by Genius100x

[NoSelfSelf]

Trust is feminine quality, men dont need trust they need cooperation.

[Genius100x]

1 minute ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Trust is feminine quality, men dont need trust they need cooperation.

Ridiculous concept. 

What if a female betrays a male? Gender is irrelevant here. 

How on earth trust is a feminine quality? 

Edited October 26 by Genius100x

[Sugarcoat]

It’s also about whether you trust your own ability to make assessments of people 

Edited October 26 by Sugarcoat

[NoSelfSelf]

1 minute ago, Genius100x said:

Ridiculous concept. 

What if a female betrays a male? Gender is irrelevant here. 

How on earth trust is a feminine quality? 

Because women must put trust in a man, while man must put trust in himself.

What a woman does is not relevant to a man because he gives her free will.

 

[Genius100x]

21 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

It’s also about whether you trust your own ability to make assessments of people, of who to trust or not. 

But here is the catch. Badass artists will never let you know their reality. If they do everything what a genuine lover does, then what? 

19 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Because women must put trust in a man, while man must put trust in himself.

What a woman does is not relevant to a man because he gives her free will.

 

I won't debate. I know this is so ridiculous. Do not derail this thread. I am not talking about gender at all. This is a problem of both males and females. 

Ur statement simplifies the dynamics of trust by suggesting rigid roles for men and women. It implies that women must inherently trust men while men should only trust themselves. Healthy relationships thrive on reciprocal trust and understanding, not on one-sided expectations.

19 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

What a woman does is not relevant to a man because he gives her free will.

 

I don't even understand what do u mean by "free will". 

Edited October 26 by Genius100x

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, Genius100x said:

But here is the catch. Badass artists will never let you know their reality. If they do everything what a genuine lover does, then what? 

Do you mean if someone is able to display themselves as being a faithful person but they’re not? Sometimes we could be wrong about people. Then id just say at the end of the day you can’t control someone and you shouldn’t want to as that will just make you suffer. Ideally in relationships to people you can love them but shouldn’t be dependent on them, so if they cheat it doesn’t break you. You can learn from that experience and maybe be able to recognize red flags better the next time.

[NoSelfSelf]

9 minutes ago, Genius100x said:

 

I won't debate. I know this is so ridiculous. Do not derail this thread. I am not talking about gender at all. This is a problem of both males and females. 

Im saying its not and that's that...

[Genius100x]

19 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Do you mean if someone is able to display themselves as being a faithful person but they’re not? Sometimes we could be wrong about people. Then id just say at the end of the day you can’t control someone and you shouldn’t want to as that will just make you suffer. Ideally in relationships to people you can love them but shouldn’t be dependent on them, so if they cheat it doesn’t break you. You can learn from that experience and maybe be able to recognize red flags better the next time.

Yes this is the answer. There is always a tiny risk in everything. We shouldn't be overly cautious, due to some edge cases. 

Things can go horribly wrong with ANYTHING, not just in relationships. 

With some wisdom, we can know in most cases whether it's true love or not. True love feels different. We know when we experience it. 

 

19 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

but shouldn’t be dependent on them, so if they cheat it doesn’t break you.

Easier said than done. We do become dependent. Bcz of our emotions. 

Edited October 26 by Genius100x

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Genius100x said:

Yes this is the answer. There is always a tiny risk in everything. We shouldn't be overly cautious, due to some edge cases. 

Things can go horribly wrong with ANYTHING, not just in relationships. 

With some wisdom, we can know in most cases whether it's true love or not. True love feels different. We know when we experience it. 

Agreed

[Sugarcoat]

2 minutes ago, Genius100x said:

Easier said than done. We do become dependent. Bcz of our emotions. 

Agree here too. The human mind works in such a way it forms attachments. But it can probably be worked on. 

[Hojo]

You need to just throw your heart into the wind. Its guranteed to be hurt but its what you desperately want to do.

No one can be trusted so just go all in. If you dont you will be giving into fear of being hurt. The fear of being hurt will cause you to get hurt but thats the point and its what everyone secretly wants because it gives life meaning.

So take your heart and just throw it at the person its all you can do. If they break it its a bonus.

Edited October 26 by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

21 hours ago, Genius100x said:

So what's the solution to this problem? I want some discussion. 

The solution is to recognize the mind's ability to create problems out of thin air and to not get sucked into it's status quo....unless you want to continue to suffer it's demise that is. 

[Genius100x]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

The solution is to recognize the mind's ability to create problems out of thin air and to not get sucked into it's status quo....unless you want to continue to suffer it's demise that is. 

Didn't get it. 

[Princess Arabia]

21 hours ago, Genius100x said:

This puts me into dilemma : 

You're not in dilemma, the mind that only sees past and future is. It created a problem that isn't there and now it wants a solution for the problem it created. It is a never-ending cycle that leads to suffering on different levels. If somebody leaves a comment on how to solve this invisible problem, it will debunk, rebut, and tell them how they're not making any sense. That's what it does. 

The problem of mistrust has been created before the relationship has even started based on past and probable future. I'm just trying to show and make you aware of how problems get created out of thin air. What does someone else's relationship past has to do with your present circumstances. Nothing. You are anticipating the future and also creating the future NOW. You have, with this inquiry, created mistrust in your coming relationships without even realizing it. 

[Genius100x]

3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

You have, with this inquiry, created mistrust in your coming relationships without even realizing it. 

You mean that I should be more trusting. What if they cheat? 

Both are important, love/trust and awareness. 

I don't care about my future relationships or my own personal life. I just wanted an answer to this problem, (which I have got already). It's not my personal dilemma. 

Edited October 27 by Genius100x

[Princess Arabia]

Go through your post word for word and see how many words are in the past tense. DO IT!! quote this comment with the answer.

[Genius100x]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

past tense.

Honey, how is it relevant? Past or future. 

Nothing in past tense.

Either you are not getting me or I am not getting you. 

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Genius100x said:

Both are important, love/trust and awareness. 

This is the only thing in your comment to me that is of any importance. The rest is just speculation of the mind and endless irrelevant bickering.

[Genius100x]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

This is the only thing in your comment to me that is of any importance. 

In my whole post, I am talking ONLY about this. Nothing Else.