LEO GURA : Awakening and suffering

[James123]

4 minutes ago, Loveeee said:

What about solipsism 

The person who thinks that solipsism is true is just an illusion in first place. 

[Nemra]

33 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Everyone wants the entirety of what makes them happy. No one wants something temporary, even if it is substantial.

The problem is in not being aware that things are temporary. Wanting isn't the problem. Wanting is different than being entitled.

If I want to be happy for a while, I'll watch some comedy on my phone.

Being entitled would be blaming the comedian if his/her comedy didn't change my mood.

Edited Monday at 07:20 PM by Nemra

[Schizophonia]

@Sugarcoat Imagine developing the ability of being high all the time. 

Would be delirious.

Edited Monday at 07:15 PM by Schizophonia

[Spiritual Warfare]

38 minutes ago, Nemra said:

The problem is in not being aware that things are temporary. Wanting isn't the problem. Wanting is different than being entitled.

If I want to be happy for a while, I'll watch some comedy on my phone.

Being entitled would be blaming the comedian if his/her comedy didn't change my mood.

I’m not saying that everyone must get it, but rather that one should want to receive it.

[Sugarcoat]

46 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

@Sugarcoat Imagine developing the ability of being high all the time. 

Would be delirious.

That was so random. If being high is nice then it sounds good

[Schizophonia]

2 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

That was so random. If being high is nice then it sounds good

By delirious i meant incredible. 

[Sugarcoat]

2 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

By delirious i meant incredible. 

Ok then we on the same page

[Vibes]

1 hour ago, Loveeee said:

What about solipsism 

Ha!

He won't answer that. He wants to fuck with your mind.

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, Rishabh R said:

@Princess Arabia No but that was acceptance of suffering which made me smile.

 

Still a thought. What was that acceptance. It was something that was said. "I accept this suffering", the suffering will pass", whatever it was. Whether aloud or inside. Still a thought.

[PenguinPablo]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@Kairos The point of Awakening is to understand what reality is.

I'm made it quite clear that Awakening doesn't solve material conditions.

Suffering is part of life. Rather than trying to escape it, embrace it. Life is meant to be challenging. That's what grows you.

There does appear to be people that simply abide in that infinite bliss. Like Ram Dass. But it is the absolutely rarest thing on this planet. Most people are in a perpetual state of medium-to-low grade flight or flight state.

[Ishanga]

18 minutes ago, PenguinPablo said:

There does appear to be people that simply abide in that infinite bliss. Like Ram Dass. But it is the absolutely rarest thing on this planet. Most people are in a perpetual state of medium-to-low grade flight or flight state.

Two things come to mind when I read this.  First, is this a natural thing or manufactured thing, the fact that most ppl are medium to grade flight or fight state, which I think is the case as well...

Secondly, I don't think we have really advanced much since cave man days mentally, we've locally (like in India) made great strides in human development and spiritual development, they have figured this Human Mechanism down to its tiniest point of reference, everything there is to know about what it means to be Human India has discovered via their Spiritual Systems, but it hasn't gone out far and wide around the Globe, so since that is the case, what we use to gather like fire, shelter, food and safety, we replace it with fame, fortune, success, entertainment, distraction, sex, drugs, rock and roll, all the things that will keep You trapped in Cave Man Awareness...

The key is to know there is more Potential to be explored, if that fascinates You then explore it and see where it takes You, I think it firstly takes You too a Peaceful Experience naturally!

Edited Monday at 08:48 PM by Ishanga

[Loveeee]

51 minutes ago, Vibes said:

Ha!

He won't answer that. He wants to fuck with your mind.

Solipsism is true, I am The One

Plot armor 

[Loveeee]

3 hours ago, Yimpa said:

It's crucial though

[Yimpa]

God suffers. And then she hysterically laughs as a madman.

[Spiral Wizard]

5 hours ago, Kairos said:

@Leo Gura @Leo Gura @Davinodude how heck do you embrace it when it doesn't make any fkin sense .

like anytime I think about my situation I feel very unfair about it  and ask that wth have I done to deserve this .There are morally ethically bad people who are happier Why me .And I fall into envy and resentment towards others or life itself .

How do you avoid it .How do you guys avoid this ???

The solution lies in the problem. Allow yourself to feel your pain. 

 

[Spiral Wizard]

31 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

God suffers. And then she hysterically laughs as a madman.

that's right xD

[PenguinPablo]

2 hours ago, Ishanga said:

Two things come to mind when I read this.  First, is this a natural thing or manufactured thing, the fact that most ppl are medium to grade flight or fight state, which I think is the case as well...

Secondly, I don't think we have really advanced much since cave man days mentally, we've locally (like in India) made great strides in human development and spiritual development, they have figured this Human Mechanism down to its tiniest point of reference, everything there is to know about what it means to be Human India has discovered via their Spiritual Systems, but it hasn't gone out far and wide around the Globe, so since that is the case, what we use to gather like fire, shelter, food and safety, we replace it with fame, fortune, success, entertainment, distraction, sex, drugs, rock and roll, all the things that will keep You trapped in Cave Man Awareness...

The key is to know there is more Potential to be explored, if that fascinates You then explore it and see where it takes You, I think it firstly takes You too a Peaceful Experience naturally!

I would say it is manufactured. Corruption breeds corruption. It's like a virus.

 

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, Ishanga said:

Secondly, I don't think we have really advanced much since cave man days mentally,

Do you think that it's the same now that be in tribal wars, change women for horses and torturing enemies while we dance and shouting? Well, honestly sounds much more funny the cavern option than be a lawyer for example, but I think it's quite different. 🤣

Edited Monday at 11:24 PM by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

14 minutes ago, PenguinPablo said:

I would say it is manufactured. Corruption breeds corruption. It's like a virus.

 

It's natural because it's inevitable. War is inevitable, and it's a big shit. Yesterday I was reading some parts of the biography of Rudolf hoss, human society is that. It's absolutely impossible, no one option, that in a primitive society there is not war. It's genetically encoded. Human condition is extremely hard. Then, from this condition this society emerges. It comes from the total horror, the massacre and the slavery. It's very difficult to understand what the social contract is. What are the origins of our mental structure 

Edited Monday at 11:31 PM by Breakingthewall

[Rishabh R]

@Princess Arabia No it wasn't a thought. I actually accepted my suffering and let it be.

Edited Tuesday at 12:32 AM by Rishabh R