LEO GURA : Awakening and suffering

[Spiritual Warfare]

2 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

You just aren't aware of how suffering serves you if you were aware of it you would be thankful to it whenever it came your way.

Whenever you suffer it is meant to happen so that you grow stronger.

There is good suffering, but there is also bad suffering. We shouldn’t have to accept the bad kind if it isn’t necessary. I think it’s unfortunate that many people can’t distinguish between the two.

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[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, Kairos said:

@Leo Gura @Leo Gura @DavinoOkay so like instead of complaining I should be working for what I want right .

Btw I'm not tagging three times it's glitch or something idk 

Build your life a bit each day, every day until you die.

That's the only reasonable strategy. Everything else is a distraction.

Edited October 28 by Leo Gura

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Rishabh R said:

Also without suffering we would be dead much much sonner than our time comes for death.

No, that's pain. There's a difference. 

[Atb210201]

10 minutes ago, Rishabh R said:

Also without suffering we would be dead much much sonner than our time comes for death.

Yes.

Growing out of suffering is the way to God and Eternity. (It doesn't mean you should go on seek suffering though)

Edited October 28 by Atb210201

[Rishabh R]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

No, that's pain. There's a difference. 

Ok but isn't suffering biological designed in our system for survival ?

[Atb210201]

2 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

There is good suffering, but there is also bad suffering. We shouldn’t have to accept the bad kind if it isn’t necessary. I think it’s unfortunate that many people can’t distinguish between the two.

Suffering is suffering.

Whenever it comes just embrace it and look for the lesson in it.

That's it.

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Atb210201 said:

Suffering is suffering.

Whenever it comes just embrace it and look for the lesson in it.

That's it.

Wrong

[Ishanga]

Just now, Rishabh R said:

Ok but isn't suffering biological designed in our system for survival ?

No, Pain is but Pain and Suffering are not the same, Suffering is mostly mental, You bring up the Pain from the past into the present Moment, ppl relive painful experiences over and over again in their minds, this is suffering that no other life form experiences as much as Humans do..Other than torture or recovering from an accident of sorts, how does Suffering happen?

[Atb210201]

1 minute ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Wrong

If you can avoid suffering then it is best you do that I'm not denying that if that's what you meant.

Edited October 28 by Atb210201

[Rishabh R]

1 minute ago, Atb210201 said:

Suffering is suffering.

Whenever it comes just embrace it and look for the lesson in it.

That's it.

Yeah absolutely. The more you resist suffering more you get entangled into it . It is like a quicksand. The only way out is through it 

[Ishanga]

4 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

There is good suffering, but there is also bad suffering. We shouldn’t have to accept the bad kind if it isn’t necessary. I think it’s unfortunate that many people can’t distinguish between the two.

There is no Good Suffering, Pain can be called good for us because it sets up our limits of our bodies and minds, but Suffering in any way is disabling and disempowering on all levels!

[Kairos]

@Leo Gura @Leo Gura @DavinoFair enough man thank you...very logical answer .

[Atb210201]

2 minutes ago, Rishabh R said:

Yeah absolutely. The more you resist suffering more you get entangled into it . It is like a quicksand. The only way out is through it 

Exactly.

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Rishabh R said:

Ok but isn't suffering biological designed in our system for survival ?

No, the body has it's own set of systems to keep it alive. Endocrine, nervous, digestive, respiratory, cardiovascular, etc. The body isn't concerned with thoughts. The individual is, and they're not even it's own. It owns the suffering thoughts as a way to keep itself alive. It uses the body as it's host. It latches on. Then it releases then latches on then releases. Let it go forever and there's no more suffering only felt sensations.

[Rishabh R]

1 minute ago, Ishanga said:

No, Pain is but Pain and Suffering are not the same, Suffering is mostly mental, You bring up the Pain from the past into the present Moment, ppl relive painful experiences over and over again in their minds, this is suffering that no other life form experiences as much as Humans do..Other than torture or recovering from an accident of sorts, how does Suffering happen?

Suffering happens to make us go through negative emotions because life gives you a holistic package of both positive emotions and negative emotions. Also the chemicals in the brain which is Endorphin is produced naturally in the brain whom no one can defeat or distract oneself from.

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

There is no Good Suffering, Pain can be called good for us because it sets up our limits of our bodies and minds, but Suffering in any way is disabling and disempowering on all levels!

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[Rishabh R]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

No, the body has it's own set of systems to keep it alive. Endocrine, nervous, digestive, respiratory, cardiovascular, etc. The body isn't concerned with thoughts. The individual is, and they're not even it's own. It owns the suffering thoughts as a way to keep itself alive. It uses the body as it's host. It latches on. Then it releases then latches on then releases. Let it go forever and there's no more suffering only felt sensations.

But we are ignoring the function of brain and it's survival mechanisms to keep us alive.

[Ishanga]

4 minutes ago, Rishabh R said:

Suffering happens to make us go through negative emotions because life gives you a holistic package of both positive emotions and negative emotions. Also the chemicals in the brain which is Endorphin is produced naturally in the brain whom no one can defeat or distract oneself from.

If "Positive" emotions exist, the opposite has to exist, so the range of emotions are just Potentials, the Human can navigate this range and consciously choose which emotions to feel on a consistent basis, if You neglect to choose, then Life is being lived by Accident and Your Compulsive in nature, a virtual Slave to outside situations and ppl around You.  For a Human this is not living up to Your Potential at all, its living way below it. Spirituality is about Living to Your Highest Potential, so choose for Yourself how You want to live Life, High Potential Life, or Low...

The problem is the society has brainwashed most ppl to believe that Suffering is Inevitable, and a part of Life, it is not...

Edited October 28 by Ishanga

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, Rishabh R said:

Suffering happens to make us go through negative emotions because life gives you a holistic package of both positive emotions and negative emotions. Also the chemicals in the brain which is Endorphin is produced naturally in the brain whom no one can defeat or distract oneself from.

You are confusing pain with suffering. If you stick yourself with a needle, that's painful and it hurts. You suffer that pain with thoughts and ideas about the pain. No such thing as positive and negative emotions. The mind makes that imaginary distinction. Emotion is emotion.

Edited October 28 by Princess Arabia