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[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Majed said:

@Leo Gura why frame game like you have to be a narcissist when you can frame it like you need to develop decent social, and seduction skills by going out and seducing women.

He frames it that way because he is a narc and likes it that way.

58 minutes ago, Raze said:

Except you yourself said women like delusional confidence and jerks 

Yes, of course. The difference is whether you then act that out and become that.

Young immature women loves lots of dumb and toxic stuff. That doesn't mean you have to indulge them.

[Raze]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yes, of course. The difference is whether you then act that out and become that.

Young immature women loves lots of dumb and toxic stuff. That doesn't mean you have to indulge them.

So the whole point is to teach how to get laid, he’s just being honest. 

[Leo Gura]

10 minutes ago, Raze said:

So the whole point is to teach how to get laid, he’s just being honest. 

No, it's more than that with him. He's turned it into a lifestyle and a life philosophy. It has slowly consumed his mind.

You don't just chase getting laid for 30 years without it warping you.

Edited Saturday at 02:16 PM by Leo Gura

[Nemra]

4 hours ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Man has responsibility, that's why women naturally don't have accountability because they turn to men for it, so if you misuse that power its on you your choice.

The more powerful you are, the more responsibility you are going to have, regardless of whether you are a man or woman.

Also, each person is responsible for their actions.

[NoSelfSelf]

15 minutes ago, Nemra said:

The more powerful you are, the more responsibility you are going to have, regardless of whether you are a man or woman.

Also, each person is responsible for their actions.

Im talking in the context of man/woman relationship it also stretches further...is that you think woman and man are equal no they are not,ofcourse woman can do things that are out of line but usually it's a mans responsibility to set guidelines and its usually mans fault because man doesnt see woman as the equal, he is the one who took her as his responsibility and he is the one that creates situations,so man holds all of the power but guys who see her as the equal get angry at a woman because they expects her to think in same way as his equal, doesnt work like that.. she is complementing him and his decisions.

Thats why guys dont want to easily comit to a woman, because they dont want to take that responsibility that goes with being a man.

Edited Saturday at 03:39 PM by NoSelfSelf

[Nemra]

@NoSelfSelf, you are talking as if all women are children and/or should act like that.

And of course, if you're the only one that sets the rules, then you are the responsible one.

But the thing is that you don't want them to set a single rule by justifying that men aren't equal to women. How comfortable.

[NoSelfSelf]

8 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@NoSelfSelf, you are talking as if all women are children and/or should act like that.

And of course, if you're the only one that sets the rules, then you are the responsible one.

But the thing is that you don't want them to set a single rule by justifying that men aren't equal to women. How comfortable.

Im not saying they are children but they operate differenlty.

She sets up the rules to guys they dont see as the masculine figure, because those guys dont see their own value.

I didnt make this things up its how nature works, you can follow feminism narrative but relationship dynamic will suffer.

So you are saying that it should be not comfortable but problematic,chaotic with women? ofcourse if you see them as equal and dont give them structure, they will run with the wildness because she is not meant to be free, men are but this what i said could be interpeted wrongly..

Edited Saturday at 03:54 PM by NoSelfSelf

[Nemra]

@NoSelfSelf, you are speaking of very feminine types of women. I agree; they like being given structure. 

21 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

ofcourse if you see them as equal and dont give them structure, they will run with the wildness because she is not meant to be free, men are but this what i said could be interpeted wrongly..

Neither of them are really free. But a person is more free when he/she is not in a relationship. Maybe you wanted to say autonomy or independence.

Also, what do you mean by equality?

[NoSelfSelf]

22 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@NoSelfSelf, you are speaking of very feminine types of women. I agree; they like being given structure. 

Neither of them are really free. But a person is more free when he/she is not in a relationship. Maybe you wanted to say autonomy or independence.

Also, what do you mean by equality?

Its not about liking you are making game about women man enforces structure.

Thats why you made second statement.

I would need to talk to you for an hour to explain what i mean about equality, but you said that power holds man and a woman in relationship,which is why i said you think about equality.

[Nemra]

14 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Its not about liking you are making game about women man enforces structure.

It's not a good idea to force someone into something without them wanting or desiring it.

20 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

you said that power holds man and a woman in relationship,which is why i said you think about equality.

You misunderstood.

[NoSelfSelf]

3 minutes ago, Nemra said:

It's not a good idea to force someone into something without them wanting or desiring it.

You misunderstood.

Enforcing and forcing is completely different things.

[Nemra]

4 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Enforcing and forcing is completely different things.

Still, there needs to be a desire for that from the other; otherwise, it'll end badly. You can understand that when someone enforces you.

[NoSelfSelf]

13 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Still, there needs to be a desire for that from the other; otherwise, it'll end badly. You can understand that when someone enforces you.

Well i dont want her to stay, i want her to choose to stay based on how i represent my value and if she gonna recognize it.If i see its not recognizes, then there is no point in going further.If i dont enforce things then i wont know if she wants it or not by her choice, so it will end up badly in the future not in the beggining,because there is no investment one only invest if she follows structure.

Edited Saturday at 05:49 PM by NoSelfSelf

[Nemra]

15 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

If i dont enforce things then i wont know if she wants it or not by her choice, so it will end up badly in the future not in the beggining,because there is no investment

I agree, but for the beginning. Also, consider that you have a very dominant personality, which is why you want to give structure.

Also, it's not that you are the only one that'll reject the other. They'll be rejecting you based on their own values.

[NoSelfSelf]

9 minutes ago, Nemra said:

I agree, but for the beginning. Also, consider that you have a very dominant personality, which is why you want to give structure.

Also, it's not that you are the only one that'll reject the other. They'll be rejecting you based on their own values.

Point of structure and actually "wanting" her to reject you, so you dont waste time,so you create space for women who actually desire you.

The amount of game we spoke today is insane but ofcourse just tip of the iceberg.

just saw this 😂

 

 

Edited Saturday at 06:23 PM by NoSelfSelf

[Lyubov]

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Classic RSD toxic masculinity in a nutshell.

If you think you must be a delusional narcissist, that's who you will become.

Like Owen.

He disappoints me in his lack of serious growth. Tripling down on Orange is not serious growth. It's just becoming a slave to hyper neoliberalism.

Makes me regret sharing his material with my audience.

That's the corrupting effect of chasing sex, money, success, fame, and status. Eventually you become so corrupted by it that you don't even understand you are corrupt.

I’ve been watching some of his general self help content and it is helpful though for the strategic aspects of life. His free tour where he yaps for two hours about the matrix is a waste of time and I can take only so much of his autistic screaming. His 30 minute cinematic videos have some decent beliefs and mindsets to adopt though for creating your dream life. I wouldn’t pay him a penny however. Literally everything you need from him is on his YouTube. I don’t believe paying much more than the cost of an audio book on Amazon is necessary for information products. One on one coaching is another story, hundreds/thousands can be an amazing investment. But there are life coaches teaching the same material as him, perhaps from my perspective even more advanced, that you can get coaching for a couple hundred bucks a session. The most advanced and mature person I ever had sessions / coaching from is this guy and he only charges £200 a session. Owen probably is charging thousands, but his clientele are rich California people who think cause they paying more they getting the best.

https://youtube.com/@wuweiwisdom?si=bc-LYewJCxXkEFh9

Edited Saturday at 06:43 PM by Lyubov

[Nemra]

44 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

just saw this 😂

I didn't get what you were trying to say with the video.

[NoSelfSelf]

5 minutes ago, Nemra said:

I didn't get what you were trying to say with the video.

Dana white has structure set on how he runs Ufc, so he rejected her because he wants her to grow to become bigger to join Ufc later on, she took it as rejection but he thinks long term for whats best for the business to operate. now replace business with you(relationship) and thats game...

[Nemra]

@NoSelfSelf, I understand what you are saying. What I'm saying is that both of those people have a certain mindset that makes them the way they are. Some people don't want to give structure, and some do, because of something more deep inside them that makes them desire, do, align, etc. with something.

We can say the game has rules, which are the psychology, biology, etc. of people.

[NoSelfSelf]

8 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@NoSelfSelf, I understand what you are saying. What I'm saying is that both of those people have a certain mindset that makes them the way they are. Some people don't want to give structure, and some do, because of something more deep inside them that makes them desire, do, align, etc. with something.

We can say the game has rules, which are the psychology, biology, etc. of people.

Just leave you dont get it.