Leo Gura Is Wrong About Existence

[Inliytened1]

On 10/23/2024 at 3:00 PM, Atb210201 said:

Bro you cannot know the answer to everything unless you completely die so then God or Existence would reveal everything to you.

So if you haven't died yet and you're like me then just accept that one day after you've died you'll know all the answers then.

As crazy as this sounds it's possible and you get to come back too.  If you're lucky.   

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia not so much a mis understanding  about manifesting or your points of view its more of a philosophy problem.. the fundamentals automatically destroy themselves.

If  A dosent exist can A manifest something?

Logic says no you are saying yes.

If yes what is manifesting?

I don't have time to check other threads rn I'm at work maybe later.

Edited October 24 by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

If  A dosent exist can A manifest something?

I know where you're going with this and I used to be the same way. If you remember in my Manifesting thread I refer to the I AM being the one and how manifestation happens through that. You do exist but not as a human named Hojo. That's made up.  So the one that truly exists is the one bringing forth what it wants to experience through you. Let's call it God. You are everything and nothing. In order for you as God to have experiences of something as nothing you need something as a contrast to the nothing that you are; keeping in mind that you are also everything but in potential. The Universe is what's manifesting itself. It cannot experience itself without something that's made manifest the same way you are only you because of other. It's one thing but it has to have a contrast to experience something and that is manifestation. You say if A doesn't exist but there is no such thing as non-existence to begin with and A was never there to begin with it was always God. So, to rephrase your question - who does A exist as and from where is it manifesting from. A is God or Infinity and Infinity is manifesting from itself.

[Princess Arabia]

@Spiritual WarfarePlease watch this video in it's entirety, and especially the last 15mins, but try to watch all of it as it ties together beautifully what this thread is about. It's 50 mins long but very informative as to why existence is as it and why when we're born we chose to forget ourselves to start afresh. 

[LoneWonderer]

@Spiritual Warfare

On 24/10/2024 at 7:16 AM, Spiritual Warfare said:

There is no God in control because a God wouldn’t have chosen such a limited player. I can prove this: if an angel came to you and offered you powers, you would accept them! That’s the proof, and for those who claim that God chose this path, please seek help. I hope the cartel catches you. Why couldn’t God remember His nature when He became human? That wouldn’t sabotage the challenges and adventure here on Earth. Forgetting one’s true nature is not beautiful, it’s terrible. It leaves you confused and causes you to forget to live in the present moment.

 

    2.    Reincarnation also doesn’t make sense because something must create these reincarnations, which is absurd. Why should I live my life here on Earth only to forget it later? There’s nothing beautiful about that, it’s terrible.

    3.    A separate God is illogical and impossible. What I’ve concluded is that existence itself is illogical because none of these ideas make sense, none!

Hey my man (or woman or whatever you identify as). I've read almost every post on this thread. Here's your solution. Take enough 5 meo dmt and you will have you're question answered. You will become god, all of existence, you will know the answer to life and it will all make sense. That's it.

[Loveeee]

All according to plan 

[Ishanga]

15 hours ago, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia not so much a mis understanding  about manifesting or your points of view its more of a philosophy problem.. the fundamentals automatically destroy themselves.

If  A dosent exist can A manifest something?

Logic says no you are saying yes.

If yes what is manifesting?

I don't have time to check other threads rn I'm at work maybe later.

She argues a position, so what does that mean?

We all do, so what does that mean?

If she really experienced there is no doing, and nothing is happening, she wouldn't be here as much with as many posts as she has.. We are all guilty of this, its just that some are more guilty than others due to the facts of their actions, someone with 1000 posts is not as guilty as someone with 10,000 posts, but says nothing is happening or ever did.. Oxymoron galore, then they go on the relationships forum or Politics forum and argue a war that apparently doesn't exist since nothing is happening, complete BS on the Spiritual as well as Intellectual/Logic level..

I'm sure everyone that does this, including me, are good people, and I would enjoy spending some time with most of them, but we can't do that for the most part, all we can do is go by what they say, and if its ridiculous then that has to be said to them to maybe wake them up someday!

Edited October 25 by Ishanga

[Spiritual Warfare]

21 hours ago, Rishabh R said:

@Spiritual Warfare maybe we all are wrong . What if we question ourselves that - What if I'm wrong ?

It’s what I do, and I hope more people become like me (;

 

 

[Spiritual Warfare]

21 hours ago, Yimpa said:

Leo is wrong and conservatives are right

Leo says he’s open minded, but maybe he’s just missing the ‘right’ perspective.

 

 

 

 

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Ishanga said:

maybe wake them up someday!

There's no one to wake up...booo.

[Spiritual Warfare]

20 hours ago, Dazgwny said:

This is a terribly spiritually uneducated opinion 

Please tell me more about spiritual education. You must have picked it up during your lunch breaks on Twitter.

 

[Spiritual Warfare]

17 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Being limited is precisely what makes reality "real"

 

It's called awakening.  And if you actually do awake, it doesn't change anything.   You're just lucid unless you wanna forget while in the dream which is also possible and actual more probable most of the time.

 

It makes perfect sense once you realize bullet point 1.  And that you realize it is just One Infinite Consciousness or Awarness.  You realize you have to take on different forms in order to experience each possiblity.

 

Now you are catching on.  There is no separation.  God is just this.  Existence is just this.  

The question is, why does it have to experience all these forms? Is it because existence has no control, as @Breakingthewall says, or do you think existence can make its own decisions?

[Spiritual Warfare]

16 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

@Spiritual WarfarePlease watch this video in it's entirety, and especially the last 15mins, but try to watch all of it as it ties together beautifully what this thread is about. It's 50 mins long but very informative as to why existence is as it and why when we're born we chose to forget ourselves to start afresh. 

I gave the video a thumbs down. Everything is just speculation. Remember, just because something sounds logical and beautiful doesn’t mean it’s true. I’m not saying it’s wrong, but I’m also not saying it’s right. More evidence is needed.

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Ishanga said:

If she really experienced there is no doing, and nothing is happening, she wouldn't be here as much with as many posts as she has.

You're assuming there's someone here deciding to post. What I've said is in complete alignment with me still on here posting. You've misunderstood the message and that's ok. I keep explaining it and you keep missing it, precisely because of that energetic structure that's holding your body. I never said I've experienced no doing. That makes no sense. How can anyone experience no doing. Thats an oxymoron, like you say. You're expecting that if I say there's no one, then there's someone to decide not to do or to do. You're the one going off of what's being said. If I were to decide not to post because there's no one, then, dah, isn't that someone. Total misunderstanding of what's been said. You expect the noone to know its no one and then decide to be a someone. Hehe. No one cannot just turn into someone if it was a no one to begin with. 

[Spiritual Warfare]

6 hours ago, LoneWonderer said:

@Spiritual Warfare

Hey my man (or woman or whatever you identify as). I've read almost every post on this thread. Here's your solution. Take enough 5 meo dmt and you will have you're question answered. You will become god, all of existence, you will know the answer to life and it will all make sense. That's it.

No, for one, it is illegal, and for another, you can never truly know what you really experienced.

[Spiritual Warfare]

4 hours ago, Loveeee said:

All according to plan 

All according to plan? I didn’t realize we were following the script for a disaster movie.

 

[Hojo]

@Spiritual Warfare God has a script. Jews say God made a script of the universe and re read it 4 times before starting the simulation.

Edited October 25 by Hojo

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Hojo said:

@Spiritual Warfare God has a script

None of them are good.

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

I gave the video a thumbs down. Everything is just speculation. Remember, just because something sounds logical and beautiful doesn’t mean it’s true. I’m not saying it’s wrong, but I’m also not saying it’s right. More evidence is needed.

Ok. I get where the mindset is. That's perfectly fine. We're all perceiving things differently. I really respect the fact that you're not just listening to things and just agreeing like a monkey. As long as we keep our differences respectful and without judging others for theirs, we're on the right track. That's all that counts. Yesterday, I was joking around a lot, but you can tell when I'm being serious and when I'm being a bit cynical. 

Actually, it's when it doesn't sound logical and beautiful is when I tend to pay more attention. You've mislabeled my way of seeing the world incorrectly; and just that alone tells me you're just generalizing and seeing me through the eyes of how you see everyone else and how they see the world. You didn't cater that saying towards me as an individual and what you know about me personally, you just said that thinking that's how you think i see things - the part about logical and beautiful is what i'm referring to here. I'm aware the Universe is illogical and is actually chaotic by nature, so I don't look for things that sounds logical in this respect. For me the mire illogical and chaotic it sounds the closer to the truth it is. I already know there's no truth anyway but what the subconscious accepts as true and it's all relative. The only truth there is on the Absolute level is just that, The All There Is.

[Loveeee]

4 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

All according to plan? I didn’t realize we were following the script for a disaster movie.

 

You get conscious enough you can dream up whatever you want or just feel the love you're after, directly, and infinitely