Leo Gura Is Wrong About Existence

[Spiritual Warfare]

53 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

This is because you're assuming reality is real, fixed and not illusory. I'm not denying it's real for you and for me, please understand this; but it only feels real and seems fixed. Don't get fixated on that part so much because the mind won't accept that or understand that and be repulsed by it. 

You cannot change reality as reality is already done. It's all infinite potential. You can only draw from it and attract or repel things to you that already exists through it's Universal laws and will depend on the law that is being applied - consciously or not. In the dream world and within the illusory world we can influence it. It is changeable because of this reason. If you see a bird in the sky, you see a bird in the sky, if you look through a telescope that bird will appear closer and bigger. Didn't you change how you experienced the bird? Didn't the bird appear different to you then? Still the same bird but appeared to you differently when you changed how you looked at it. Well manifestation is the same way. Nothing to change only to be experienced differently by changing the one that's looking.

What is wonderful about that?

[Princess Arabia]

49 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

What is wonderful about that?

I was just explaining how manifestation becomes real, or why it's a thing.

I don't care if you see life wonderfully or not. That's up to you and not my place to try and let you see it otherwise. I actually agree with you with mostly what you're saying in this thread. Mostly the parts where you say why are you here and how you should know why you're here and how it being mysterious sucks and how is this wonderful when you don't know anything, stuff like that. I've already seen through this shit, but I was once there, so I'm pass this.

Those are legitimate concerns and naturally so because of your underlying sovereign nature and you feel powerless because you can't change it.  If you notice my only contribution to this thread so far was just to explain the manifestation part. I wasn't trying to let you see life differently or to tell you to suck it up and trust and all that jazz. No, you don't want to hear that, you want answers.

Well, the answers are in the questions. You already know what's up and you are voicing your concerns not to get answers or to feel better but to take the responsibility off of yourself as the one true being. The burden is being felt in your particular form and you are regurgitating. That form, knows deep down what it is; and it wants to stay in form so as to remain separate but it knows it will not remain in form forever and it is acting out because it knows there's nothing but a fucking void on the other side and it hates being in that void. What's so wonderful about that you say, you're actually cursing yourself and asking what's so wonderful about being. It's a phase you're going through, and until you realize truly who you are and accept yourself fully, you will continue to play this game. You're playing the game within a game and anybody that knows what they truly are can see through your bullshit games.

Edited October 24 by Princess Arabia

[Spiritual Warfare]

9 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I was just explaining how manifestation becomes real, or why it's a thing.

I don't care if you see life wonderfully or not. That's up to you and not my place to try and let you see it otherwise. I actually agree with you with mostly what you're saying in this thread. Mostly the parts where you say why are you here and how you should know why you're here and how it being mysterious sucks and how is this wonderful when you don't know anything, stuff like that. I've already seen through this shit, but I was once there, so I'm pass this.

Those are legitimate concerns and naturally so because of your underlying sovereign nature and you feel powerless because you can't change it.  If you notice my only contribution to this thread so far was just to explain the manifestation part. I wasn't trying to let you see life differently or to tell you to suck it up and trust and all that jazz. No, you don't want to here that, you want answers.

Well, the answers are in the questions. You already know what's up and you are voicing your concerns not to get answers or to feel better but to take the responsibility off of yourself as the one true being. The burden is being felt in your particular form and you are regurgitating. That form, knows deep down what it is; and it wants to stay in form so as to remain separate but it knows it will not remain in form forever and it is acting out because it knows there's nothing but a fucking void on the other side and it hates being in that void. What's so wonderful about that you say, you're actually cursing yourself and asking what's so wonderful about being. It's a phase you're going through, and until you realize truly who you are and accept yourself fully, you will continue to play this game. You're playing the game within a game and anybody that knows what they truly are can see through your bullshit games.

Manifestations are not different perspectives, at least that’s what I have learned. You wrote at the end that those who know their true nature can see through my bullshit games, but how can anyone truly know their real nature? Direct experience can give you a glimpse, but not the whole picture; there will always be questions.

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Manifestations are not different perspectives, at least that’s what I have learned. You wrote at the end that those who know their true nature can see through my bullshit games, but how can anyone truly know their real nature? Direct experience can give you a glimpse, but not the whole picture; there will always be questions.

Exactly, anyone that knows they don't know. YOU HAVE FELL INTO YOUR OWN TRAP. Not really, as there really are no real traps. You are the devil and a very cunning one. I am too, so don't think I'm calling you out. I'm everything. Ilm saying you're playing devilish games for your own amusement. See how quickly you can answer and come back with your answers. You invented them that's why. It takes a devil to recognize a devil and it takes being to know what it's not.

[Spiritual Warfare]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Exactly, anyone that knows they don't know. YOU HAVE FELL INTO YOUR OWN TRAP. Not really, as there really are no real traps. You are the devil and a very cunning one. I am too, so don't think I'm calling you out. I'm everything. Ilm saying you're playing devilish games for your own amusement. See how quickly you can answer and come back with your answers. You invented them that's why. It takes a devil to recognize a devil and it takes being to know what it's not.

These are just statements, even though there may be some logic behind them.

 

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Spiritual Warfare said:

These are just statements, even though there may be some logic behind them.

 

What the fuck do you want me to type, songs, music, dogs barking, cats meowing, birds chirping, cows mooing, piano playing, of course it's going to be in statements. Saying these are just statements is just another one of your frivolous games that you and most of humanity is playing. I can see right through the fucking games, the games of i'm here to do the devils work so please don't try and stop me. We invented everything to do just that. We even invented the term enlightenment to pretend to not get sucked in and to tell ourselves we have awoken to our true nature. We were never asleep, just being bad and pretending to want to change and awaken. There's no God, there's no devil, there's no true nature, it's just you. Its just me. Its just everybody as the one. Playing it's own fucking game of hide and seek and pretending to suffer and crying like a chimp. Wow, what a masterpiece.

[Spiritual Warfare]

4 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

What the fuck do you want me to type, songs, music, dogs barking, cats meowing, birds chirping, cows mooing, piano playing, of course it's going to be in statements. Saying these are just statements is just another one of your frivolous games that you and most of humanity is playing. I can see right through the fucking games, the games of i'm here to do the devils work so please don't try and stop me. We invented everything to do just that. We even invented the term enlightenment to pretend to not get sucked in and to tell ourselves we have awoken to our true nature. We were never asleep, just being bad and pretending to want to change and awaken. There's no God, there's no devil, there's no true nature, it's just you. Its just me. Its just everybody as the one. Playing it's own fucking game of hide and seek and pretending to suffer and crying like a chimp. Wow, what a masterpiece.

🤦‍♂️

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

🤦‍♂️

Lol

[James123]

28 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Manifestations are not different perspectives, at least that’s what I have learned. You wrote at the end that those who know their true nature can see through my bullshit games, but how can anyone truly know their real nature? Direct experience can give you a glimpse, but not the whole picture; there will always be questions.

Meditate in darkness and silence. Sit at least for 2 hours per day. Have a retreat. I lived in darkness and silence for months. And have a good healthy diet or fast. 

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, James123 said:

I lived in darkness and silence for months.

And where did that get you, may I ask? Why do you think you have a mouth.

Edited October 24 by Princess Arabia

[James123]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

And where did that get you, may I ask?

It make the I less. Very less. 

Edited October 24 by James123

[Spiritual Warfare]

2 minutes ago, James123 said:

Meditate in darkness and silence. Sit at least for 2 hours per day. Have a retreat. I lived in darkness and silence for months. And have a good healthy diet or fast. 

Thank you very much, you earn a lot of respect.

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, James123 said:

It make the I less. Very less. 

There already is no "I". You've been tricked by the mind. Another Spiritual sucker. Hehe

[James123]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

There already is no "I". You've been tricked by the mind. Another Spiritual sucker. Hehe

Says the Ms. Ego

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Thank you very much, you earn a lot of respect.

Another trick, love to see others pretending to be Spiritual. Why didn't I or anyone else in this thread earned any respect. You have to play Halloween to gain your respect. Sitting in a dungeon and playing dumb.

Edited October 24 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, James123 said:

Says the Ms. Ego

Yeah, but I'm not trying to silence or lessen anything. 

[Spiritual Warfare]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

There already is no "I". You've been tricked by the mind. Another Spiritual sucker. Hehe

I'm not playing dumb, and I enjoyed reading your comments, but everything is just statements.

[Spiritual Warfare]

4 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Another trick, love to see others pretending to be Spiritual. Why didn't I or anyone else in this thread earned any respect. You have to play Halloween to gain your respect. Sitting in a dungeon and playing dumb.

I meant this quote.

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

I'm not playing dumb, and I enjoyed reading your comments, but everything is just statements.

I'm talking about when James 456 to infinity said he sat in darkness and in silence for mths and you said he earned you respect for doing that. I think that's why you said respect. Not sure because this shit called life already makes no sense you could be referring to ants for all I'm concerned.

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

I meant this quote.

Was referring to James' silent treatment in the dungeon of darkness as playing dumb.

Edited October 24 by Princess Arabia