Leo Gura Is Wrong About Existence

[James123]

Just now, Spiritual Warfare said:

Pure consciousness 

Thats what You really are and you are here just for funnnnnnnnn. Thats all. No big deal, nothing to take seriously, firstly the self, just danceeee!!!

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, James123 said:

Thats what You really are and you are here just for funnnnnnnnn. Thats all. No big deal, nothing to take seriously, firstly the self, just danceeee!!!

I need evidence for that.

[James123]

2 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

I need evidence for that.

'you' can not. Drop 'you'. This is the most important key in the path. 

[Spiritual Warfare]

2 minutes ago, James123 said:

'you' can not. Drop 'you'. This is the most important key in the path. 

I need evidence for that.

[James123]

19 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

I need evidence for that.

How can you show evidence to something, which is not exist?

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, James123 said:

How can you show evidence to something, which is not exist?

I need evidence for that.

[James123]

1 hour ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

I need evidence for that.

Eat 10 gr dried shrooms with fresh lemon in darkness and silence.

[Spiritual Warfare]

19 minutes ago, James123 said:

Eat 10 gr dried shrooms with fresh lemon in darkness and silence.

How do you know that I’m not being deceived? I need proof of that.

[James123]

17 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

How do you know that I’m not being deceived? I need proof of that.

'I' is the biggest deceive itself. 

[Spiritual Warfare]

17 minutes ago, James123 said:

'I' is the biggest deceive itself. 

I need evidence of that.

[Hojo]

@Spiritual Warfare The evidence cannot be proven it has to be experienced. When you experience it your ego starts freaking and and says I will never be able to talk or communicated with anyone ever again and it will short circuit and you will see that you aren't the ego. It is a claim but its a claim that has to be witnessed and experienced as evidence from the first person. Your first person, because you are in a first person simulation pretending that other can show you the claim. Objective reality is not there.

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Hojo said:

@Spiritual Warfare The evidence cannot be proven it has to be experienced. When you experience it your ego starts freaking and and says I will never be able to talk or communicated with anyone ever again and it will short circuit and you will see that you aren't the ego. It is a claim but its a claim that has to be witnessed and experienced as evidence from the first person. Your first person, because you are in a first person simulation pretending that other can show you the claim. Objective reality is not there.

How do I experience this, and how do I know that I’m not being deceived?

[James123]

Just now, Spiritual Warfare said:

How do I experience this, and how do I know that I’m not being deceived?

use pychedelics. You will see  

[Spiritual Warfare]

2 minutes ago, James123 said:

use pychedelics. You will see  

It is illegal where I live

[Breakingthewall]

18 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

How do I experience this, and how do I know that I’m not being deceived?

That about experience and psychedelics work sometimes, but usually doesn't. First you have to understand what is the self. It's obvious that the self is limitation in all the directions. You vs other, perceptor VS perception, inside vs outside. Limits everywhere. For example, the sentence: I'm god creating the reality for love, is full of limits. Creating means intention, will with one positive concrete objetive , then that God is limited, self. See everything that appears as limited and dissolve it, until no limit remains. Then psychedelic could help, before the psychedelic usually make the ego stronger and bigger 

Edited October 24 by Breakingthewall

[Hojo]

@Spiritual Warfare You have to somehow focus on something that is not the mind for a period or take psychedelic to do it fast. When you stop focusing on mind and focus on something else ie. consciousness the heart or breathing, reality completely changes. Its only that we are in the brain and forced into the brain that we think we are the brain. It is a survival mechanism of the body. Essentially the reason is you are too scared or don't have enough focus because of traumatizing events or don't have enough training.

The ego,the voice in your head is the deception and when it stops you see its the deception you cant see its the deception while being deceived by the voice of the mind. It will literally feel like you are fazing out of this currently reality like link to the past fazing into the dark or light world.

Edited October 24 by Hojo

[Spiritual Warfare]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

That about experience and psychedelics work sometimes, but usually doesn't. First you have to understand what is the self. It's obvious that the self is limitation in all the directions. You vs other, perceptor VS perception, inside vs outside. Limits everywhere. For example, the sentence: I'm god creating the reality for love, is full of limits. Creating means intention, will with one positive concrete objetive , then that God is limited, self. See everything that appears as limited and dissolve it, until no limit remains. Then psychedelic could help, before the psychedelic usually make the ego stronger and bigger 

Thank you so much!

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Hojo said:

@Spiritual Warfare You have to somehow focus on something that is not the mind for a period or take psychedelic to do it fast. When you stop focusing on mind and focus on something else ie. consciousness the heart or breathing, reality completely changes. Its only that we are in the brain and forced into the brain that we think we are the brain. It is a survival mechanism of the body. Essentially the reason is you are too scared or don't have enough focus because of traumatizing events or don't have enough training.

The ego,the voice in your head is the deception and when it stops you see its the deception you cant see its the deception while being deceived by the voice of the mind. It will literally feeling like you are fazing out of this currently reality like link to the past fazing into the dark or light world.

Thank you so much! 

[Princess Arabia]

4 hours ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

That is not true. It doesn’t matter how much I believe I can change reality. It won’t work. If it really worked, there would already be people who could fly, for example. Manifestation is nonsense. It is very limited and not worth applauding.

This is because you're assuming reality is real, fixed and not illusory. I'm not denying it's real for you and for me, please understand this; but it only feels real and seems fixed. Don't get fixated on that part so much because the mind won't accept that or understand that and be repulsed by it. 

You cannot change reality as reality is already done. It's all infinite potential. You can only draw from it and attract or repel things to you that already exists through it's Universal laws and will depend on the law that is being applied - consciously or not. In the dream world and within the illusory world we can influence it. It is changeable because of this reason. If you see a bird in the sky, you see a bird in the sky, if you look through a telescope that bird will appear closer and bigger. Didn't you change how you experienced the bird? Didn't the bird appear different to you then? Still the same bird but appeared to you differently when you changed how you looked at it. Well manifestation is the same way. Nothing to change only to be experienced differently by changing the one that's looking.

[Princess Arabia]

54 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then psychedelic could help, before the psychedelic usually make the ego stronger and bigger

It's just another illusion making another illusion appear bigger and stronger. There is no power in either on their own. Even if you say well a gun is powerless on it's own and if i take that gun and shoot you, you will die. Really? Whose dying. That psychedelic can only show you more illusions and make for a different experience. There is no actual getting closer to what already is and where you're already at. It's all appearances just as how water vapor in the sky appear as clouds. Go try to grab one of those clouds.