Dawkins vs Peterson

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Unironically, Joe Rogan, considering the amount of DMT he has ingested, probably has a greater understanding of reality than these two.

[zurew]

 

[Carl-Richard]

11 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Unironically, Joe Rogan, considering the amount of DMT he has ingested, probably has a greater understanding of reality than these two.

How much DMT is that exactly? JP has also admitted to taking massive doses of psychedelics.

[Leo Gura]

Psychedelics can't help you if you're so biased and have poor epistemics and attachments.

You have to be willing to throw your old views away, which neither of these men are willing to do. You have to be willing to admit you were fundamentally wrong.

Edited October 25 by Leo Gura

[Greatnestwithin]

27 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Psychedelics can't help you if you're so biased and have poor epistemics and attachments.

You have to be willing to throw your old views away, which neither of these men are willing to do. You have to be willing to admit you were fundamentally wrong.

@Leo Gura have you seen Peterson making this: how is he so blind given his years of experience and working with people. ???

 

[Leo Gura]

@Greatnestwithin I'm not even going to click on it. I already know it's garbage.

Edited October 25 by Leo Gura

[ItsNick]

@Greatnestwithin I just saw one of the timeline stamps, titled: "Trump is highly conscientious and compassionate."

[Davino]

2 hours ago, Greatnestwithin said:

 

Their ability to say bullshit and make it sound intelligent is truly remarkable

[Carl-Richard]

@Greatnestwithin

It's very ironic, because he uses the very same traits he uses to describe Trump ("assertive, not polite, but compassionate") to describe himself:

 

And it makes sense that he would use that language to essentially defend Trump's narcissism, as he probably does the same thing in his own mind with his own narcissism lol. Funny case of projection.

Edited October 26 by Carl-Richard

[Extreme Z7]

@Greatnestwithin I prefer the Harris DC Justice League team

[Leo Gura]

JP has the gall to call SJWs and climate activists psychopaths, narcs, and Luciferian, yet he cannot recognize that Trump is all those things.

All of his Christian posturing and he cannot even recognize an obvious antichrist. That is why Christianity is shit.

Edited October 26 by Leo Gura

[Bobby_2021]

JP takes an issue with the fact that blue hair activists have a higher moral standing in society, and wants to bring them down to the level of other factions in society.

Society at large do accept that Trump is narcissistic and impulsive moron. The people who support Trump are openly claiming they support who he is.

But not for the sjw activists, which he takes an issue with so hard. Sjw activists claim to be supporting moral good but end up doing shady shit which is what his major issue is.

[Leo Gura]

18 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

The people who support Trump are openly claiming they support who he is.

Nonsense!

JP supports Trump and doesn't comprehend Trump's psychological depravity at all.

Half of Trump supporters think he is annointed by God to fight Satan.

It's pure stupidity. And JP is leading it on like a court jester, providing it an air of intellectual sophistication and credibility.

If we were in Nazi Germany, JP would be making videos about the righteousness of Hilter.

Edited October 26 by Leo Gura

[Bobby_2021]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

Nonsense!

JP supports Trump and doesn't comprehend Trump psychological depravity at all.

Not the psychological depravity. Don't go that deep. I mean in superficial terms only.

For example Trump says fuck climate fuck climate change fuck the planet anyway we make money. Pro trumpers do not care about the planet anyway. 

But the climate activists claims to be supporting the planet and their actions suggest that they still harm the planet anyway.

That's what JP takes an issue with.

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

But the climate activists claims to be supporting the planet and their actions suggest that they still harm the planet anyway.

So what? At least they are trying.

The greater sin is the denial -- the mental arcobatics right-wingers do to deny climate change.

Edited October 26 by Leo Gura

[Jayson G]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Nonsense!

JP supports Trump and doesn't comprehend Trump's psychological depravity at all.

Half of Trump supporters think he is annointed by God to fight Satan.

It's pure stupidity. And JP is leading it on like a court jester, providing it air of intellectual sophistication and credibility.

If we were in Nazi Germany, JP would be making videos about the righteousness of Hilter.

@Leo Gura I haven't looked into this one bit, but JP can't be that naive? I've seen some videos of his in the past, and some were pretty good. 

[Leo Gura]

50 minutes ago, Jayson G said:

@Leo Gura I haven't looked into this one bit, but JP can't be that naive? I've seen some videos of his in the past, and some were pretty good. 

He's not naive. He's deluded by his warped Christian worldview, his moral political crusading, and his anti-socialist hysterics.

Edited October 26 by Leo Gura

[Jayson G]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

He's not naive. He's deluded by his warped Christian worldview, his moral political crusading, and his anti-socialist hysterics.

@Leo Gura ah okay, in that case he is very similar to Yuval harari, but instead of being blinded by christianity, he is blinded by his national identity. He too is otherwise pretty wise. Actually I'm starting to see a pattern like this in quite a few places. 

[Davino]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

JP supports Trump and doesn't comprehend Trump's psychological depravity at all.

Yet he has a PhD in clinical psychology from McGill University. So ironic

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

And JP is leading it on like a court jester, providing it an air of intellectual sophistication and credibility.

Oh, that's a good analogy. It lead me to research on jesters

 

7 hours ago, Jayson G said:

He too is otherwise pretty wise. Actually I'm starting to see a pattern like this in quite a few places.

Intellect and maturity are two distinct aspects of the Mind. You may use your intellect to further delude yourself in systematic schemes and clever rationalizations upon your predefined bias. You may be old and mature, yet your intellect feeble by that point.

[Nilsi]

18 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

@Greatnestwithin

It's very ironic, because he uses the very same traits he uses to describe Trump ("assertive, not polite, but compassionate") to describe himself:

 

And it makes sense that he would use that language to essentially defend Trump's narcissism, as he probably does the same thing in his own mind with his own narcissism lol. Funny case of projection.

Are you suggesting that Jordan is a narcissist?

I don’t think reducing his character to a simple label through differential psychology will help us grasp the complexity or pathology of his persona - or Trump’s, for that matter. The clip you just posted, along with that strange X-Men propaganda piece, should be evidence enough of this.

What’s needed here is a deeper understanding rooted in psychoanalysis, particularly Freudian psychoanalysis. Unfortunately, the only figure capable of this depth in our current discourse is Slavoj Žižek, but he doesn't seem keen on engaging in this conversation.