Earth is a punishment

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Hojo said:

@Spiritual Warfare you cant do it when you are in your natural state 

Fair, but I’ve been at that higher level, though it might all just be an illusion and not an objective truth about death.

[Thought Art]

 

[Thought Art]

@Spiritual Warfare Thoughts are like clouds. Keep returning to love, peace, vision, etc

[Spiritual Warfare]

17 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Spiritual Warfare Thoughts are like clouds. Keep returning to love, peace, vision, etc

Well written.

[Consept]

Your mind might be hell but earth is not. Meaning its all perspective, if we put this on the micro level, somebody might hear a piece of music and think that its the worst thing, its hell to listen to and another person might think its the most amazing sound ever and its heaven but the reality is its a sound, only your perspective makes it so. 

All things are temporary but thats also what makes them beautiful, if you lived forever you wouldnt appreciate your life in the same way as you do knowing its impermanence and in fact living forever might be hell.  

[Lyubov]

Dude your perspectives suck. We are so blessed to be here. 

[Spiritual Warfare]

47 minutes ago, Consept said:

Your mind might be hell but earth is not. Meaning its all perspective, if we put this on the micro level, somebody might hear a piece of music and think that its the worst thing, its hell to listen to and another person might think its the most amazing sound ever and its heaven but the reality is its a sound, only your perspective makes it so. 

All things are temporary but thats also what makes them beautiful, if you lived forever you wouldnt appreciate your life in the same way as you do knowing its impermanence and in fact living forever might be hell.  

My problem is the unknown, not knowing everything,that is suffering.

[Spiritual Warfare]

31 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

Dude your perspectives suck. We are so blessed to be here. 

What a joke. We don’t even know why we were born is probably suffering in itself. Everything good you experience is just temporary peace. There are so many unnecessary functions with our Mother Earth that are terrible, and our bodies are far too limited.

Edited October 20 by Spiritual Warfare

[Consept]

30 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

My problem is the unknown, not knowing everything,that is suffering.

Well no, not accepting that you don't know everything is suffering. Any resistance to what is, is suffering, but it's within your power to accept and not suffer. 

 

[Spiritual Warfare]

12 minutes ago, Consept said:

Well no, not accepting that you don't know everything is suffering. Any resistance to what is, is suffering, but it's within your power to accept and not suffer. 

 

I will never accept it. Why should anyone accept that life is a mystery? It’s not cool or exciting, it’s terrible.

[Consept]

14 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

I will never accept it. Why should anyone accept that life is a mystery? It’s not cool or exciting, it’s terrible.

You dont have to accept it, you have the choice to suffer

 

[Thought Art]

40 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

I will never accept it. Why should anyone accept that life is a mystery? It’s not cool or exciting, it’s terrible.

If it wasn’t a mystery it would be so lame and boring lol.

[VeganAwake]

@Spiritual Warfare Sounds like your convinced that understanding reality would be the end of suffering.

Reality is completely unknowable and infinite. How could anyone possibly understand that which has no beginning or end....unfathomable!

You could live 100,000 lives attempting to know reality, and you still would be completely stumped....trust!

There is no hope, no use, no value in understanding. But obviously the mind is very stubborn hehe.

Even if there was a deep understanding, your still going to die like you mentioned!

Maybe not giving a fuck is the freedom you seek brother?

❤️ 

[Princess Arabia]

Yes, there is a s suffering, and it can feel like hell sometimes; but what about the good times. Plenty of people are experiencing more heavenly times than hell all over the world and vice versa. This is duality. Stop seeing yourself as a human only and stop living in your head and trying to control things and the pain will lessen. My mom passed and I cried like hell, and sometimes I still do, but I'm not suffering over it because it's a choice and a matter of thoughts. You seeing the world how you would like it to be to suit your needs and not how it is. None of us are seeing it as it is but at least some of us aren't having temper tantrums with it and being mature about how they view their experiences. The Universe doesn't give us more than we can handle, it's the mind that gets in the way and wants to be the boss.

[Princess Arabia]

3 hours ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

I will never accept it. Why should anyone accept that life is a mystery? It’s not cool or exciting, it’s terrible.

If you had a girlfriend that was robotic, predictable and does the same shit everyday with no change in sight, you'd wish for her to be like life. Spontaneity, fun, mysterious and unpredictable are great traits to have in life yet you bitch to the Universe that it's a mystery. The same traits you find attractive in someone, are the same traits you dislike about the world. Think about it and be honest.

Edited October 21 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

4 hours ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

My problem is the unknown, not knowing everything,that is suffering.

You're a control freak, that's why. Have you ever been attracted to a female. Did you know her then? Yet you pursued with the endeavor to get to know her. Why can't you approach life the same way. You are riddled with fear and it's controlling you and ruining your experience of life. I don't need to know you to know this. Your words says it all.

[martin_malin]

 Therefore, be a light unto the darkness, and curse it not. And forget not Who You Are in the moment of your encirclement by that which you are not. But do praise to the creation, even as you seek to change it. And know that what you do in the time of your greatest trial can be your greatest triumph. For the experience you create is a statement of Who You Are—and Who You Want to Be.

Conversation with God book 1

Edited October 21 by martin_malin

[Salvijus]

3 minutes ago, martin_malin said:

 Therefore, be a light unto the darkness, and curse it not. And forget not Who You Are in the moment of your encirclement by that which you are not. But do praise to the creation, even as you seek to change it. And know that what you do in the time of your greatest trial can be your greatest triumph. For the experience you create is a statement of Who You Are—and Who You Want to Be.

Conversation with God book 1

Strong 

[Javfly33]

9 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Ok I see 

@Sugarcoat DO not believe this guys.

They haven´t seen what I´ve seen. 

Careful some devil stealing the possibility of Liberation for you. 

 

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Non-existence does not exist, only existence exists. I’m saying this human form will die, but we will exist in one form or another. There must be an eternal substance for everything that exists because you can’t create something out of nothing. This means something must be eternal, and that eternal thing is existence.

Sure, the issue here is that you don´t know what existence is. 

You think existence is a 'thing'. 

eternal non-existence is precisely what you are. 

If doesn´t matter if you can´t die because what you are is literally the absence of existence (No-Thing/That Which is Not: Shiva).

Any kind of existence or Experience (doesn´t matter if is a DMT realm with no body and just mind) is still Maya and suffering.

The only reason you are experiencing a planet earth and a body is because you are entangled and not liberated. And you are not working towards liberation so you will reincarnate after you die again. As most of the people in this forum will. 

 

Spirituality is not about experiencing some samadhi and feeling One with the universe or tripping endlessly and have insights. Those are just opening some doors. That is not escaping the prison.

In fact the more doors you open without the clear focus of escaping the more deep you´ll get in the prison. 

 

If you don´t know where you are going, if you just start opening doors sensessly, you easily can get more lost and deep in the building.

Once you know where you are going (You had a 'peak' outside the prison) you know is real and now every step you take and every door you open is just you looking for the exit, with this attitude one day you will be out. 

Edited October 21 by Javfly33

[Spiritual Warfare]

6 hours ago, Consept said:

You dont have to accept it, you have the choice to suffer

 

Accepting will lead to suffering. Just because it worked for you doesn’t mean it will work for everyone.