Earth is a punishment

[integration journey]

Just now, PurpleTree said:

So a discussion is just claiming superstitious or religious bs? Aren‘t you trying to find the "truth" or something?

Yes, but how did you come up with the conclusion that what I said is falsehood? I’m just discussing. You were quick to dismiss my point as religious bs. I’m not even religious. 

[PurpleTree]

3 minutes ago, integration journey said:

Yes, but how did you come up with the conclusion that what I said is falsehood? I’m just discussing. You were quick to dismiss my point as religious bs. I’m not even religious. 

You claimed about contracts. I asked you how you know. You said you don’t know you heard it from some spiritual leader. I‘m not saying it’s falsehood. It’s unknowable if it’s true or not. But it sounds like spiritual bs.

[Thought Art]

@Spiritual Warfare Speak for yourself there negative Nelly…

Wisdom, love, consciousness and understanding is the cure to all this negativity.

Edited October 20 by Thought Art

[Davino]

 

[Thought Art]

 

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Thought Art said:

@Spiritual Warfare Speak for yourself there negative Nelly…

Wisdom, love, consciousness and understanding is the cure to all this negativity.

It’s only temporary, as no one knows exactly what happens after death.

[Spiritual Warfare]

2 minutes ago, Davino said:

 

I get flashbacks from the movie Logan (2017) when I hear the song.

[Ishanga]

5 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Spiritual Warfare Speak for yourself there negative Nelly…

Wisdom, love, consciousness and understanding is the cure to all this negativity.

Yes it is the cure, but he/we are talking about the current trend in society which is that of suffering for the most part, luckily for us we have more access to this cure than ever before that is the saving grace.  Its not negativity either, it just saying the reality as it is, and I live in a wealthy country, I can't imagine what it is like living in a poor one, 100X worse!!

Edited October 20 by Ishanga

[Spiritual Warfare]

3 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

 

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[Thought Art]

@Spiritual Warfare And you’re gonna get all negative about something you don’t understand why? 

[Thought Art]

9 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Yes it is the cure, but he/we are talking about the current trend in society which is that of suffering for the most part, luckily for us we have more access to this cure than ever before that is the saving grace.  Its not negativity either, it just saying the reality as it is, and I live in a wealthy country, I can't imagine what it is like living in a poor one, 100X worse!!

Like guys, here we are on the Actualized forum… we have Leo, each other… AI… every book at our finger tips… age of information…. Let’s work slowly together to make the world a better place. 
 

What is a life purpose but to work toward the goodness and grace of all? 

Edited October 20 by Thought Art

[Spiritual Warfare]

2 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Spiritual Warfare And you’re gonna get all negative about something you don’t understand why? 

Why wouldn’t I do it? What’s the point of striving for something if I don’t even know if I’ll remember my ego when I die? If I don’t remember, it doesn’t matter if I work myself to death or anything like that! Of course, you get upset about things you don’t know, but you know the unknown is coming for you in the end.

[What Am I]

Asked to AI

Q: Can you summarize the Gnostic conception of humanity's situation on Earth?

A: In Gnosticism, humanity's situation on Earth is seen as one of spiritual imprisonment and ignorance. According to Gnostic teachings, the material world, including the Earth, was created by a flawed or false deity, often referred to as the Demiurge. This creator god is seen as inferior to the true, supreme God, who is the source of spiritual light and knowledge.

Gnostics believe that humanity is composed of a divine spark, a fragment of the true God, which is trapped in the material world. This spark is often referred to as the pneuma, or the divine breath. However, humanity is unaware of its true nature and is instead controlled by the false god and its minions, who keep humans in a state of ignorance and bondage.

The material world is seen as a prison, a realm of darkness and illusion, where humans are trapped in a cycle of birth, death, and rebirth. Gnostics believe that the only way to escape this prison is through gnosis, or spiritual knowledge, which allows individuals to recognize their true nature and the true nature of the world.

Gnostics often view the material world as a realm of suffering and impermanence, and they see human existence as a struggle between the divine spark within and the forces of darkness that seek to keep it trapped. The goal of Gnostic spirituality is to liberate the divine spark and return to the true God, often through a process of spiritual awakening and self-discovery.

[Thought Art]

@Spiritual Warfare

Of course you get upset about things you don’t know? How is that of course? There is no “of course”. Do you get upset when you buy a new book because you don’t know what’s in it? No.

That is an illusion, all this negative thinking about death etc. You exist right now. Either your gonna honour and enjoy the process of developing a profound life or your not. Don’t get me wrong, I know how brutally hard this can be. I work extremely hard. I suffer through difficult internal and external challenges. Life isn’t meant to be easy, that’s why it feels so damn good. 
 

Fear not death! Rejoice in this divine opportunity that is right in front of you instead of fearing some imaginary death! Roar!!!

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Thought Art said:

@Spiritual Warfare

Of course you get upset about things you don’t know? How is that of course? There is no “of course”. Do you get upset when you buy a new book because you don’t know what’s in it? No.

That is an illusion, all this negative thinking about death etc. You exist right now. Either your gonna honour and enjoy the process of developing a profound life or your not. Don’t get me wrong, I know how brutally hard this can be. I work extremely hard. I suffer through difficult internal and external challenges. Life isn’t meant to be easy, that’s why it feels so damn good. 
 

Fear not death! Rejoice in this divine opportunity that is right in front of you instead of fearing some imaginary death! Roar!!!

The thing you forget is that you don’t know what happens after death; everything is just speculation. If I knew exactly what happened after death, I wouldn’t view human life as a torment if, in the end, I would receive eternal love and control over everything.

[Spiritual Warfare]

3 minutes ago, What Am I said:

Asked to AI

Q: Can you summarize the Gnostic conception of humanity's situation on Earth?

A: In Gnosticism, humanity's situation on Earth is seen as one of spiritual imprisonment and ignorance. According to Gnostic teachings, the material world, including the Earth, was created by a flawed or false deity, often referred to as the Demiurge. This creator god is seen as inferior to the true, supreme God, who is the source of spiritual light and knowledge.

Gnostics believe that humanity is composed of a divine spark, a fragment of the true God, which is trapped in the material world. This spark is often referred to as the pneuma, or the divine breath. However, humanity is unaware of its true nature and is instead controlled by the false god and its minions, who keep humans in a state of ignorance and bondage.

The material world is seen as a prison, a realm of darkness and illusion, where humans are trapped in a cycle of birth, death, and rebirth. Gnostics believe that the only way to escape this prison is through gnosis, or spiritual knowledge, which allows individuals to recognize their true nature and the true nature of the world.

Gnostics often view the material world as a realm of suffering and impermanence, and they see human existence as a struggle between the divine spark within and the forces of darkness that seek to keep it trapped. The goal of Gnostic spirituality is to liberate the divine spark and return to the true God, often through a process of spiritual awakening and self-discovery.

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[Ishanga]

7 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

Like guys, here we are on the Actualized forum… we have Leo, each other… AI… every book at our finger tips… age of information…. Let’s work slowly together to make the world a better place. 
 

What is a life purpose but to work toward the goodness and grace of all? 

Well that's what I mean, we have all the Comforts and Conveniences, places like this and other places/resources to allow us Humans to evolve to higher Potentials, way above Suffering and Survival, but its really a battle of sorts, there's us on one side and the "other" guys that want to keep the status quo, keep ppl down and suffering to keep control, to deny it is too deny the whole picture, we can get out of it I agree, but it for sure a struggle. It happens in my own life in a small way, I work and work to get myself and my family ahead but it hurts at times, not easy and it could be allot worse and that happens to ppl all the time..

[Thought Art]

“Afterlife… oh my God… what an awful word… 

 

After all the breath.. and the dirt.. and the fires are burnt… 

after all this time… after all the ambulances go..

after all the hangers on are done hanging on, in the dead light of the after glow…

I gotta know!

can we work it out? Scream and shout? Until we work it out!?”

 

— Your Life is non-negotiable. Whine, or create. You are given this divine choices. 

[Ishanga]

6 minutes ago, What Am I said:

Asked to AI

Q: Can you summarize the Gnostic conception of humanity's situation on Earth?

A: In Gnosticism, humanity's situation on Earth is seen as one of spiritual imprisonment and ignorance. According to Gnostic teachings, the material world, including the Earth, was created by a flawed or false deity, often referred to as the Demiurge. This creator god is seen as inferior to the true, supreme God, who is the source of spiritual light and knowledge.

Gnostics believe that humanity is composed of a divine spark, a fragment of the true God, which is trapped in the material world. This spark is often referred to as the pneuma, or the divine breath. However, humanity is unaware of its true nature and is instead controlled by the false god and its minions, who keep humans in a state of ignorance and bondage.

The material world is seen as a prison, a realm of darkness and illusion, where humans are trapped in a cycle of birth, death, and rebirth. Gnostics believe that the only way to escape this prison is through gnosis, or spiritual knowledge, which allows individuals to recognize their true nature and the true nature of the world.

Gnostics often view the material world as a realm of suffering and impermanence, and they see human existence as a struggle between the divine spark within and the forces of darkness that seek to keep it trapped. The goal of Gnostic spirituality is to liberate the divine spark and return to the true God, often through a process of spiritual awakening and self-discovery.

Yes well put, this is a game field, it can be suffering like a Hell scape or Bliss like a Heavenly realm, that is the choice, we are most choosing the Hell scape unconsciously, but it can be another way..

Again this is not "Negativity" its just the reality, we are here to live out a certain Potential, we can choose how to be, the question is only a matter of HOW!

[Thought Art]

5 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

The thing you forget is that you don’t know what happens after death; everything is just speculation. If I knew exactly what happened after death, I wouldn’t view human life as a torment if, in the end, I would receive eternal love and control over everything.

I suggest working through this over time. It’s not true, this relationship to death. Though, I’ve been there too.

Death is infinite Love. It’s just Truth. 

Edited October 20 by Thought Art