Earth is a punishment

[Spiritual Warfare]

Living as a human being on Earth is hell. It doesn’t matter if you’ve solved the riddles of existence, which you haven’t, damn it. It doesn’t matter if you meditate and experience pure love. The truth is that existence on Earth is more of a curse than a gift, and anyone who understands the nature of it all knows that. People want to live alone, but they’ll experience suffering, unnecessary suffering. Even if someone wants to make friends or find a lifelong partner, they’ll suffer when that friend dies. Everything you do brings suffering, which is so frustrating and unfair. What the hell is this, really? Leo, you’re right about the nature of existence on many levels, but you have to stop saying that existence is wonderful here on Earth, because it’s not. I don’t mean to scare you, but I feel suicidal when I think deeply about this. I can’t accept that this is reality.

 

 

[integration journey]

Living as a human on earth is a test that your higher mind put you through so that you can grow and know more of yourself as pure consciousness and unconditional love. 
you signed up to be here so you can grow and learn. You will remember your contract once you merge back🤍

[PurpleTree]

I was in the park/forest today.

The fall colours and blue sunny sky were heavenly.

Sure there is also suffering sometimes.

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, integration journey said:

Living as a human on earth is a test that your higher mind put you through so that you can grow and know more of yourself as pure consciousness and unconditional love. 
you signed up to be here so you can grow and learn. You will remember your contract once you merge back🤍

No one can prove it, even though it sounds the most logical. The fact that existence is a mystery is tormenting enough.

[PurpleTree]

2 minutes ago, integration journey said:

Living as a human on earth is a test that your higher mind put you through so that you can grow and know more of yourself as pure consciousness and unconditional love. 
you signed up to be here so you can grow and learn. You will remember your contract once you merge back🤍

That sounds like religious bs.

[integration journey]

Just now, PurpleTree said:

That sounds like religious bs.

So what’s your alternative then? 

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, PurpleTree said:

I was in the park/forest today.

The fall colours and blue sunny sky were heavenly.

Sure there is also suffering sometimes.

There is more suffering than peace for your inner self.

[PurpleTree]

Just now, integration journey said:

So what’s your alternative then? 

Mostly non duality without most of the unknowable stuff like "contracts" and "tests" etc. that’s just a story.

[PurpleTree]

2 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

There is more suffering than peace for your inner self.

Do you visit the forest, nature etc. often?

[Ishanga]

7 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Living as a human being on Earth is hell. It doesn’t matter if you’ve solved the riddles of existence, which you haven’t, damn it. It doesn’t matter if you meditate and experience pure love. The truth is that existence on Earth is more of a curse than a gift, and anyone who understands the nature of it all knows that. People want to live alone, but they’ll experience suffering, unnecessary suffering. Even if someone wants to make friends or find a lifelong partner, they’ll suffer when that friend dies. Everything you do brings suffering, which is so frustrating and unfair. What the hell is this, really? Leo, you’re right about the nature of existence on many levels, but you have to stop saying that existence is wonderful here on Earth, because it’s not. I don’t mean to scare you, but I feel suicidal when I think deeply about this. I can’t accept that this is reality.

 

 

This mostly applies to the Human World, no other Life form suffers as much or intensely as Humans do and can, so its a Human problem, and I partly agree with what You said, there are way more ppl suffering today than are Peaceful or at Bliss, and the #'s are higher than ever, but we have all the comforts and conveniences one would want to have, so its a paradox, its forcing us to look inside ourselves and take charge, because all the suffering happens within ourselves, no where else, so its a individual as well as group thing, each individual has to take responsibility for being how they want to BE, and not look for it outside themselves, that alone will changes things...

It is depressing to say the least to see how this world is, I see it everyday, its hard at times to have hope and want to stick around to see how it all turns out at times...

[integration journey]

4 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Mostly non duality without most of the unknowable stuff like "contracts" and "tests" etc. that’s just a story.

“Test” doesn’t have to have a negative meaning. Tests can grow you and make you more mature. I’m not even talking from a religious point of view you. Just observation of life 

[Spiritual Warfare]

3 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Do you visit the forest, nature etc. often?

I do it, but all of it is temporary. I’m talking about the whole picture of existence.

[Spiritual Warfare]

5 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

This mostly applies to the Human World, no other Life form suffers as much or intensely as Humans do and can, so its a Human problem, and I partly agree with what You said, there are way more ppl suffering today than are Peaceful or at Bliss, and the #'s are higher than ever, but we have all the comforts and conveniences one would want to have, so its a paradox, its forcing us to look inside ourselves and take charge, because all the suffering happens within ourselves, no where else, so its a individual as well as group thing, each individual has to take responsibility for being how they want to BE, and not look for it outside themselves, that alone will changes things...

It is depressing to say the least to see how this world is, I see it everyday, its hard at times to have hope and want to stick around to see how it all turns out at times...

💓💓

[PurpleTree]

1 minute ago, integration journey said:

“Test” doesn’t have to have a negative meaning. Tests can grow you and make you more mature. I’m not even talking from a religious point of view you. Just observation of life 

And how do you have the idea of contracts?

[integration journey]

Just now, PurpleTree said:

And how do you have the idea of contracts?

That I have to admit I got from other “spirtual teachers” that I listened to and books I read. but it just resonates with me. It might not be true but fun to contemplate nonetheless. 

[PurpleTree]

Just now, integration journey said:

That I have to admit I got from other “spirtual teachers” that I listened to and books I read. but it just resonates with me. It might not be true but fun to contemplate nonetheless. 

Well it might be fun. Santa Claus is also fun.

But you told the op as if it was the truth.

"You have made contracts you‘ll see blabla.." 🦭

[Malekakisioannis]

@Spiritual Warfare suffering or not, loss or not, pain or not i consider my life a gift. 

[integration journey]

Just now, PurpleTree said:

Well it might be fun. Santa Claus is also fun.

But you told the op as if it was the truth.

"You have made contracts you‘ll see blabla.." 🦭

It’s called a discussion thread for a reason. 

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Malekakisioannis said:

@Spiritual Warfare suffering or not, loss or not, pain or not i consider my life a gift. 

It’s not that in the grand scheme of life on Earth.

[PurpleTree]

Just now, integration journey said:

It’s called a discussion thread for a reason. 

So a discussion is just claiming superstitious or religious bs? Aren‘t you trying to find the "truth" or something?