Right here, right now

[TruthFreedom]

How can I actually believe that anything exists beyond my direct experience, right here, right now?

There is literally no evidence to suggest that there is anything beyond what I am experiencing right now.

[Javfly33]

why do you care? 

1 hour ago, TruthFreedom said:

How can I actually believe that anything exists beyond my direct experience, right here, right now?

There is literally no evidence to suggest that there is anything beyond what I am experiencing right now.

Does those thoughts contract your 'right here right now' or it expands it?

Thats the only question you need to do in order to know if you should keep entertaining this thoughts/doubts or not. 

Edited October 19 by Javfly33

[Sugarcoat]

Why would you assume you’re the only one with experience ? As if reality would be limited to only your pov 

Edited October 19 by Sugarcoat

[Schizophonia]

4 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Why would you assume you’re the only one with experience ? As if reality would be limited to only your pov 

I say to myself that even if solipsism is truth, the pov of the other exists anyway somewhere in infinity, so in fine it comes to the same.

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, Schizophonia said:

I say to myself that even if solipsism is truth, the pov of the other exists anyway somewhere in infinity, so in fine it comes to the same.

But then solipsism can’t be true right ? Because it would mean only your pov exists, can’t believe in both simultaneously 

[Schizophonia]

2 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

But then solipsism can’t be true right ? Because it would mean only your pov exists, can’t believe in both simultaneously 

I suppose for now there is an infinity of pov in parallel, then i couldn’t say if we are « connected », or we are strictly alone in our solipsism.

Idk if i’m clear.

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, Schizophonia said:

I suppose for now there is an infinity of pov in parallel, then i couldn’t say if we are « connected », or we are strictly alone in our solipsism.

Idk if i’m clear.

What would it mean to be connected vs being alone in our solipsism? 

[Schizophonia]

12 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

What would it mean to be connected vs being alone in our solipsism? 

If when you talk to someone, there is a real direct link with an other pov (a « rope » between two consciousness) or if it’s just an animation and you’re the only consciousness in all the universe that you can perceive.

 

Edited October 19 by Schizophonia

[Sugarcoat]

17 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

If when you talk to someone, there is a real direct link with an other pov (a « rope » between two consciousness) or if it’s just an animation and you’re the only consciousness in all the universe that you can perceive.

 

Why would one assume others aren’t conscious ? 

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, TruthFreedom said:

How can I actually believe that anything exists beyond my direct experience, right here, right now?

Think that only this exist is a mental construction, think that there is more outside of your experience is another mental construction. If we are in the mental construction let's chose one, let's say the second, there is reality outside of my experience. But this is just a mental construction, do you get something with it? Like knowing things? The point is seeing that knowing things is something that happens is the unlimited field of the reality, ultimately means nothing. Everything is exactly the same, mental constructions. Only the reality is real, and it's empty of structures, it's where the structures happen 

 

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

Does those thoughts contract your 'right here right now' or it expands it?

Thats the only question you need to do in order to know if you should keep entertaining this thoughts/doubts or not. 

Yes, that is. The content of the thought means nothing, the vibration of the thought is real. Nothing has meaning, the reality is meaningless, but it's real 

Edited October 19 by Breakingthewall

[Keryo Koffa]

Is experience static or does it constantly change into new experiences?

Now, how many rabbits can you pull out of that hat?

[Keryo Koffa]

58 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

What would it mean to be connected vs being alone in our solipsism? 

The questioning will continue until we can find where or how others are created or emerge out of.

Edited October 19 by Keryo Koffa

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, Keryo Koffa said:

The questioning will continue until we can find where or how others are created or emerge out of.

We don’t even know where we ourselves emerge out of 

[Keryo Koffa]

3 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

We don’t even know where we ourselves emerge out of 

Exactly!

[Hojo]

Your parents have sex and created a light machine that holds a bunch of information. Then the void in your parents eyes keeps looking at this thing (your body, which is just empty space) and talking to it and calling it names and loving it.  Then you learn language and how to walk then they start teaching you things and then they lie to you and tell you you will die. This scares you so much you disassociate from God as its the first thing in reality you deem to be very bad. Now you think you are something other than reality and need to survival intellectually not just physically. Human are dissociated empty space.

Its like a black magic word game. You think you exist cause someone played a black magic word game on you and that's why you think there are things outside of your perception cause now you believe there are threats.

Edited October 19 by Hojo

[Schizophonia]

57 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Why would one assume others aren’t conscious ? 

Precisely solipsism eheh.

[Keryo Koffa]

40 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Your parents have sex and created a light machine that holds a bunch of information. Then the void in your parents eyes keeps looking at this thing (your body, which is just empty space) and talking to it and calling it names and loving it.  Then you learn language and how to walk then they start teaching you things and then they lie to you and tell you you will die. This scares you so much you disassociate from God as its the first thing in reality you deem to be very bad. Now you think you are something other than reality and need to survival intellectually not just physically. Human are dissociated empty space.

Its like a black magic word game. You think you exist cause someone played a black magic word game on you and that's why you think there are things outside of your perception cause now you believe there are threats.

How can a formless void get dissociated or phased by anything?
Unless it's inherently malleable, receptive, and intelligent...
Either that or an already present form multiplies its own potential.

Edited October 19 by Keryo Koffa

[Javfly33]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

The content of the thought means nothing, the vibration of the thought is real. 

Perfectly put. 

Thoughts means nothing so we might as well have thoughts that vibrate high. At the end of the day the mind seems like like a tool that can direct your life in one direction or another.

If a thought makes you feel like a depressed confused schizophrenic is a good indicator to discard it instantly. 

 

For example, in the case of the question of the topic @TruthFreedom , a thought that vibrates well with me is "Maybe I could never know it with my mind". 

That thought already feels like a possibility. If with the mind I could never arrive with a definitive answer, it opens up other ways, other ways that might not be as limited as a mind. 

Edited October 19 by Javfly33

[UnbornTao]

We could start by moving towards recognizing what is essentially an "idea" and what is experience and actual. This puts us on an adequate footing to begin.

Edited October 20 by UnbornTao

[ChrisZoZo]

12 hours ago, TruthFreedom said:

How can I actually believe that anything exists beyond my direct experience, right here, right now?

There is literally no evidence to suggest that there is anything beyond what I am experiencing right now.

That’s truth. 

Watch this video by Leo. May awaking something you. This video he does a guided meditation about what your saying.