Coffee: I want the benefits but not the addiction

[Nilsi]

Coffee is like women.

Nietzsche said it best: "Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent."

Still, I couldn’t live without my coffee...

Edited October 22 by Nilsi

[Kid A]

I simply cannot resist posting this when there is an active coffee thread up:

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2013/07/drinking-coffee-may-reduce-risk-of-suicide-by-50/

«Drinking several cups of coffee daily appears to reduce the risk of suicide in men and women by about 50 percent»

https://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/decades-of-research-shows-coffee-makes-you-healthier-happier-but-if-you-want-to-boost-your-energy-level-memory-theres-a-7-day-catch.html

«Coffee can reduce your risk of cancer up to 20 percent, your risk of type 2 diabetes by 30 percent, and your risk of Parkinson's disease by 30 percent. A study published in Circulation found that coffee can reduce the risk of stroke by 20 percent. A study of over 260,000 people conducted by the NIH found that people who drank four or more cups of coffee a day were nearly 10 percent less likely to become depressed than those who drank none.»

[manuel bon]

42 minutes ago, Kid A said:

I simply cannot resist posting this when there is an active coffee thread up:

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2013/07/drinking-coffee-may-reduce-risk-of-suicide-by-50/

«Drinking several cups of coffee daily appears to reduce the risk of suicide in men and women by about 50 percent»

https://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/decades-of-research-shows-coffee-makes-you-healthier-happier-but-if-you-want-to-boost-your-energy-level-memory-theres-a-7-day-catch.html

«Coffee can reduce your risk of cancer up to 20 percent, your risk of type 2 diabetes by 30 percent, and your risk of Parkinson's disease by 30 percent. A study published in Circulation found that coffee can reduce the risk of stroke by 20 percent. A study of over 260,000 people conducted by the NIH found that people who drank four or more cups of coffee a day were nearly 10 percent less likely to become depressed than those who drank none.»

Wow

[jedimasters]

If coffee is so healthy

why do you start shitting all the time, ramble on about different topics, and then crash afterwards, and then you have to drink more, get dehydrated, go and relieve more runny poop, and then sleep way worse. 

I bet if you tracked your sleep, coffee would destroy it easy. Laughing at you for falling into the trap of drinking it.

[jedimasters]

@Nilsi exactly. it makes us unstable. I feel you man. I am actually addicted to yerba mate / matcha myself. I get very low on days I don't drink it. Such as today. And now that I think about it, is tempted to go get a delicious matcha blended with organic butter, cinnamon and honey

[Kid A]

On 24.11.2024 at 0:37 PM, jedimasters said:

If coffee is so healthy

why do you start shitting all the time, ramble on about different topics, and then crash afterwards, and then you have to drink more, get dehydrated, go and relieve more runny poop, and then sleep way worse. 

I bet if you tracked your sleep, coffee would destroy it easy. Laughing at you for falling into the trap of drinking it.

Coffee doesn’t work like this for most people who are used to drinking it. 

You sound angry btw. Coffee must have caused you a lot of suffering…

Edited November 25 by Kid A

[ryoko]

1. 0 cup a day

2. Not addicted obviously 

3. If you want the befinits of coffee, drink milk/milkshake. Because that's where the real benifit lies. 

Coffee itself just fucks with the system and damages it bit by bit. Drink Ash Gourd essence, this is what you call real benifit. It puts you in a different state altogether. 

[Schizophonia]

Coffee makes me robotic and unhappy, nicotine is a better stimulant.

[Rigel]

On 11/27/2024 at 3:59 AM, Schizophonia said:

Coffee makes me robotic and unhappy, nicotine is a better stimulant.

Nicotine is pure nausea for me. Coffee for the win.

[Schizophonia]

15 minutes ago, Rigel said:

Nicotine is pure nausea for me. Coffee for the win.

Because you smoke too quickly and/or too strong cigarettes while having no tolerance.

Edited December 2 by Schizophonia

[Rigel]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

Because you smoke too quickly and/or too strong cigarettes while having no tolerance.

I’ll just leave it on the table, thanks

[Schizophonia]

12 hours ago, Rigel said:

I’ll just leave it on the table, thanks

Ofc i encourage nobody to smoke.

I’ve myself didn’t touch a cigarette for months.

[Michael569]

On 23/10/2024 at 0:55 PM, Kid A said:

I simply cannot resist posting this when there is an active coffee thread up:

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2013/07/drinking-coffee-may-reduce-risk-of-suicide-by-50/

«Drinking several cups of coffee daily appears to reduce the risk of suicide in men and women by about 50 percent»

https://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/decades-of-research-shows-coffee-makes-you-healthier-happier-but-if-you-want-to-boost-your-energy-level-memory-theres-a-7-day-catch.html

«Coffee can reduce your risk of cancer up to 20 percent, your risk of type 2 diabetes by 30 percent, and your risk of Parkinson's disease by 30 percent. A study published in Circulation found that coffee can reduce the risk of stroke by 20 percent. A study of over 260,000 people conducted by the NIH found that people who drank four or more cups of coffee a day were nearly 10 percent less likely to become depressed than those who drank none.»

^ great post!

There is so much more that could be said about coffee. 

You'll know almost immediately if it is bad for you by experiencing symptoms of rapid heart rate or jitteriness. Its fine for most people and long term benefits are well documented. Whether you get addicted to it to a point that you can't switch on your work laptop nor get yourself to the gym without being caffeinated is a completely different story. 

Unfortunately some people don't tolerate it well. It usually comes down to genetic mutation on certain hepatic enzymes or there is something else going on. People may have all sorts of inborn snips on key metabolic enzymes making them unable to digest certain food ingredients or particular amino acids such as phenylketonuria or different snips of P450 enzyme family. But that doesn't mean all those foods are automatically bad for everyone else. 

Knowing the nuances is important before bulk-rejecting entire foods or even food categories , e.g "carbs are bad because I get bloated from bread" or " coffee is bad because it gives me diarrhoea". 

Prospective evidence shows coffee improves the progression of depression and reduces the odds of suicide in people with mild to moderate depression. Would you take it away from them saying "coffee is bad for you"? ... I'd rather not. Sure, it doesn't solve the underlining issue of their depression but as long as it helps...

Edited December 3 by Michael569

[Sugarcoat]

Some people just don’t get addicted to it no matter how much they drink it. Me for example, and maybe you’re one of them. So you can just try it out and see for yourself

[Princess Arabia]

Some people are drinking fake cream and processed sugar, not just coffee. Sometimes it's the mixed in additives that's the problem.

[Schizophonia]

54 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

how much they drink it. Me for example

Where i live it's not uncommon for men to consume more than 5 espressos every day for decades, often in combination with cigarettes.

 

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Michael569 said:

Prospective evidence shows coffee improves the progression of depression and reduces the odds of suicide in people with mild to moderate depression. Would you take it away from them saying "coffee is bad for you"? ... I'd rather not. Sure, it doesn't solve the underlining issue of their depression but as long as it helps...

Coffee makes me anxious or belligerent, same for a close friend.

It increases dopamine a little but you might as well take a real antidepressant.

[Sugarcoat]

3 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Where i live it's not uncommon for men to consume more than 5 espressos every day for decades, often in combination with cigarettes.

 

Does it have negative consequences for health? (I only mean the coffe not the cigarettes because we know cigarettes are bad)

[Sugarcoat]

3 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

but you might as well take a real antidepressant.

Does it have similar effect as coffee lol what? 

[Schizophonia]

https://europepmc.org/article/pmc/2748160