Why people do not like their content being trained on AI?

[bambi]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Haha!

That's cause you haven't created anything valuable yet.

When you invest 20 years creating some valuable data and these tech douches steal it for $20, you will understand what I said here.

It's hard to appreciate theft when you got nothing worth stealing.

This is why I respect Musk, open source all technology and innovation

The real devils are those who try to claim propetiery ownership rather then giving it the commons, nothing is more toxic then this to me. True devilry right here imo

[Something Funny]

@Leo Gura is there anything to be done practically to deal with this issue or should we just grab the popcorn?

[Something Funny]

1 minute ago, bambi said:

This is why I respect Musk, open source all technology and innovation

The real devils are those who try to claim propetiery ownership rather then giving it the commons, nothing is more toxic then this to me. True devilry right here imo

lol

[numbersinarow]

53 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

If you think that these people really care about "helping mankind", you're very naive. What they care about is power, money, monopolizing markets, and their own egos. Which is why half the heads of OpenAI have already been fired. They are so greedy and corrupt that they can't even get along within the same small company. They don't even care about their employees, and you think they care about mankind? These people would sell their mothers into sexual slavery, video tape the rapes, and feed those videos into their AI if it made them a few more billion. And they will do the same with you. And if there's an single one of the with some morals, he will be the first one fired.

 

"Not being able to get along with people in the same platform shows you are a huge ego who only cares about power." - Guy using the word "naive" for the millionth time on his own forum and making passive aggressive comments towards people with a differing view for the millionth time.

[numbersinarow]

4 minutes ago, bambi said:

This is why I respect Musk, open source all technology and innovation

The real devils are those who try to claim propetiery ownership rather then giving it the commons, nothing is more toxic then this to me. True devilry right here imo

You really shouldn't respect mr emerald mine tho.

[Miguel1]

I grow more disappointed by this forum each day as I keep growing in my own understanding and thinking.

And with it, the disappointment of humanity grows stronger and stronger.

Oh man, sometimes I wish I never ventured this deep into pure understanding and truth-seeking but at the same time, I got so much joy doing it and couldn't help it anyways.

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, bambi said:

This is why I respect Musk, open source all technology and innovation

Lol, indeed.

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Miguel1 said:

I grow more disappointed by this forum each day

Unclear what you mean.

[bambi]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Lol, indeed.

Your just have type type 4 ennegram in your tritype, the individualist -> cares about being unique, individuality,  different, non-conformist.

You think all type 3 ennegram (the achiever) -> productivity, recognition, achievement, are devils and you are the angels lol!

[Bobby_2021]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Haha!

That's cause you haven't created anything valuable yet.

When you invest 20 years creating some valuable data and these tech douches steal it for $20, you will understand what I said here.

It's hard to appreciate theft when you got nothing worth stealing.

I'll be cool with it either way as long as they do not resell it. Transfomative work is fine for me, including training AI.

YT reaction videos come under transfomative work.

The monetization is made on the *transformed* work, NOT your work.

Infact the the degree of transformation is incredible with AI

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Think about AI like a glorified google search engine. Google could charge you for searching already. It's not like search automatically happens out of the blue.

AI is allowing you to search through the hive mind, for a fee.

It's a better search engine.

We are not yet at that place where AI companies are swimming through piles of cash. It's a bubble.

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, bambi said:

cares about being unique, individuality,  different, non-conformist.

I do care about that, but that is irrelevant to the devilry and corruption of CEOs.

I don't cast myself as an angel.

Edited October 18 by Leo Gura

[bambi]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I do care about that, but that is irrelevant to the devilry and corruption of CEOs.

I don't cast myself as an angel.

Sure, but show me a non devil in your view.

We are in a bit of a double bind in humanity right. What should we do?

Surely the modern tech and engineering companies are the least corrupt so far, so at least we should be incentivizing this vector of progression?

What else can we do, society isn't transposing into gift economy any time soon, and the collateral damage would be huge.

For me the end vision is designing new cities and large scale communities embedded with new energy systems and technology. Like re-building London but from the ground up, with renewable energy and batteries at the core, with modern governments, societal infrastrucutres etc

So starting from the scratch

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, bambi said:

Sure, but show me a non devil in your view.

There's many.

It's hard to be as corrupt as some of these billionaires. Many average folks are devils in small ways but nothing like the scale of corruption of business tycoons.

Billionaire corruption is a whole nother league of corruption. Normal people don't even qualify.

Edited October 18 by Leo Gura

[bambi]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

There's many.

It's hard to be as corrupt as some of these billionaires. Many average folks are devils in small ways but nothing like the scale of corruption of business tycoons.

Billionaire corruption is a whole nother league of corruption. Normal people don't even qualify.

Be specific, give me a name and their corruption.

I think you discount the responsbility and hard decision you have to make in leadership, especially with staff.

Its always the best of the worst situations constantly. Then people label it corrupt who are negatively affected

 

Sam Altman for example, what is his extreem corruption in your view

[royce]

The idea of feeding your content to AI is naive. AI companies are like locusts, relentlessly consuming any content available on the internet in an unethical manner. They’ll grab as much data as they can while they have the chance, before any regulations take effect. And honestly, if they’re determined to use the data already online, I doubt there’s a way to completely stop them.

[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, bambi said:

Sam Altman for example, what is his extreem corruption in your view

He sexually abused his sister.

Zuckerberg is a good example. Look how he ran Facebook to maximize profits.

Musk is a good example. Corrupt as hell.

The corruption these people do is not even necessary for good business. It's just over the top stuff. Cartoonish levels of corruption.

Edited October 18 by Leo Gura

[bambi]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

He sexually abused his sister.

Zuckerberg is a good example. Look how he ran Facebook to maximize profits.

Musk is a good example. Corrupt as hell.

The corruption these people do is not even necessary for good business. It's just over the top stuff. Cartoonish levels of corruption.

1. There are some huge accusations from his sister, to both Sam and her other brothers, so all of them where sexually abusing here? She accused them of every type of abuse including sexual, she didnt merely focus on this. This is wierd that you mention this as some how evidence of his corrupt business practices

2. Every company is maximizing profits, why wouldnt you? You maximize or optimize them within a given strategy. No one is saying Musk didnt make mistakes, he isnt excempt from human fallibility. But hes hardly a Saudi prince

3. Corrupt in what ways? Again he has transformed several industries and risked his wealth many times to achieve what he has, and is an overal net positive impact on commerce

[royce]

54 minutes ago, bambi said:

This is why I respect Musk, open source all technology and innovation

The real devils are those who try to claim propetiery ownership rather then giving it the commons, nothing is more toxic then this to me. True devilry right here imo

 idolize Musk if that’s your thing, but calling Leo a devil? Really? You should be parked on the couch next to Elon, taking notes on the work Leo was doing six years ago. Seems like you’re skipping the class

[Bobby_2021]

1 hour ago, Miguel1 said:

I grow more disappointed by this forum each day

Yeah try interacting with people in real life or in other social media.

The smartest people elsewhere are stuck in the most petty epistemological issues that it's laughable.

This forum is a world apart in that sense.

[bambi]

4 minutes ago, royce said:

 idolize Musk if that’s your thing, but calling Leo a devil? Really? You should be parked on the couch next to Elon, taking notes on the work Leo was doing six years ago. Seems like you’re skipping the class

Want to be specific? There is no substance at all to what you just wrote, so I forgive me if I skip your classes lol