If a girl sits on the opposite couch ?

[Buck Edwards]

@Hojo like what? Tell me in detail. I did not understand. What did the government do to men? 

[Hojo]

@Buck Edwards Media pushes pimps to sabotage the minds of young men. Pushes pornography on children they get addicted early. They don't even romanticize its not in their consciousness they found porn before romance movies. Probably every 12 year old knows what only fans is because they push it into their media. They are fantasizing about their classmate naked at 12 before having a crush.

Ask yourself why does andrew tate exist in anyones mind? Because he was on the news for no reason. The news created Andrew Tate and now every 12 year old thinks that's what you do to women because their parents watch the news.

I saw furry pornography on the nintendo wii store.

 

Edited October 18 by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Buck Edwards said:

women are easily labeled sluts if we easily give up to some random guy.

I've seen where women are called sluts because of the clothes she wears. Women are being shamed all over the place. Instagram models, porn stars, prostitutes, OF girls, women in short skirts, high heels, cleavage showing, belly out, if you twerk you're a hoe, if you wear red lipstick, paint your nails, wear long hair, have a ponytail, suck on a lollypop, I mean, it's endless. Then guys just wanna get laid. That's all i see. They'll even move just to get laid. They'll lie to get laid. Talk shit to get laid. Change their personality to get laid. Nothing wrong with that. Lots of us do shit in life; but why call women sluts and whores and say they're easy and worn out. Shame OF workers and belittle women trying to get paid. 

Not all guys, only some; let's make that clear.

 

Edited October 18 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

Its almost like an enemy is in control of media.

Don't get me started on that. I'd be accused of conspiracy theories. The most I'll say is the masses is being dumbed down and stuff is being pushed to try and keep us  dumbed down. That's why it's important not to watch the news as much and to scroll endlessly on social media. We're easily programmed.

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia Im pretty sure Russia is in control of the media.

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia Im pretty sure Russia is in control of the media.

Nah, it's the top percentage.

[Leo Gura]

@Hojo Stop with nonsense.

[TheEnigma]

45 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Hojo Stop with nonsense.

How many percent of this forum are women? Just curious.

[Sandhu]

@TheEnigma I know about 15 women regularly active here.

[Schizophonia]

non duality

[Schizophonia]

15 hours ago, NoSelfSelf said:

It means that you talk to me with proper english or i dont reply.I just showed you what it means.

I've said that because i've thougth desperate men (or even women, in the other sense) who accept being with someone unpleasant and self-neglecting.

I talk about "barrel" because i just have a wicked sense of humor lol.

There wasn't syntax errors in my sentence. 

[Xonas Pitfall]

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

That's not how guys think.

The one who wants to feel special is you, not the guy.

@Leo Gura Interesting. Do you maybe mind elaborating on this more? I've heard that statement a lot and I'm curious about it. It seems like plenty of guys say they don’t care about feeling special, yet they enjoy being the one leading her, the one she trusts the most to make decisions, and the one she is most influenced by—or at least more than anyone else. They like being the one to "introduce her to the world," to feel manly, have their ego stroked. That their girl respects them and their intelligence more than anyone else. That she is the most "in heat", and hot for her man. Some guys even seem fixated on being the one to take her virginity, showing off that they got a hot girl, which boosts their self-esteem in society. Doesn’t all of this suggest they do care about feeling special in her eyes, or at least "special" in some sort of status/ownership/dominance game? How do you think this differs from the girl's perspective? 

Edited October 18 by Xonas Pitfall

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

@Leo Gura Interesting. Do you maybe mind elaborating on this more? I've heard that statement a lot and I'm curious about it. It seems like plenty of guys say they don’t care about feeling special, yet they enjoy being the one leading her, the one she trusts the most to make decisions, and the one she is most influenced by—or at least more than anyone else. They like being the one to "introduce her to the world," to feel manly, have their ego stroked. That their girl respects them and their intelligence more than anyone else. That she is the most "in heat", and hot for her man. Some guys even seem fixated on being the one to take her virginity, showing off that they got a hot girl, which boosts their self-esteem in society. Doesn’t all of this suggest they do care about feeling special in her eyes, or at least "special" in some sort of status/ownership/dominance game? How do you think this differs from the girl's perspective? 

A guy might enjoy leading but that is irrelevant to feeling special.

Plenty of guys actively want it not to be special because then there's more freedom and less attachment. Of course this varies.

The truth is that guys don't view sex as special, which horrifies women. The more a guy treats sex as special the less women he will attract. So it's not in guy's favor.

Edited October 18 by Leo Gura

[gettoefl]

45 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

A guy might enjoy leading but that is irrelevant to feeling special.

Plenty of guys actively want it not to be special because then there's more freedom and less attachment. Of course this varies.

The truth is that guys don't view sex as special, which horrifies women. The more a guy treats sex as special the less women he will attract. So it's not in guy's favor.

He demands quantity and she demands quality

But neither dare admit this lest the other high tail it

[AION]

15 hours ago, Buck Edwards said:

Women have their unique reason why we don't sleep with every guy. Our sexuality is not wired like men. We reserve sex because sex is not our first priority unless we are too horny. Our first priority is being heard and felt and respected and understood. Obviously when we cross this terrain with a man, that's when our biology wants to have the man sexually too. 

Also as per patriarchal social conditioning, women are easily labeled sluts if we easily give up to some random guy. Usually that never happens because women are guarded about sex, yet when we have those slippery moments, we get slut shamed a lot. 

It is usually women shaming other women for being too slutty. Not men. We would actually love it. 😅

[Keryo Koffa]

14 minutes ago, AION said:

It is usually women shaming other women for being too slutty. Not men. We would actually love it. 😅

Men do it on occasions out of spite, women do it for casual gossip. Latter tends to impact reputation more.

[Princess Arabia]

3 hours ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

@Leo Gura Interesting. Do you maybe mind elaborating on this more? I've heard that statement a lot and I'm curious about it. It seems like plenty of guys say they don’t care about feeling special, yet they enjoy being the one leading her, the one she trusts the most to make decisions, and the one she is most influenced by—or at least more than anyone else. They like being the one to "introduce her to the world," to feel manly, have their ego stroked. That their girl respects them and their intelligence more than anyone else. That she is the most "in heat", and hot for her man. Some guys even seem fixated on being the one to take her virginity, showing off that they got a hot girl, which boosts their self-esteem in society. Doesn’t all of this suggest they do care about feeling special in her eyes, or at least "special" in some sort of status/ownership/dominance game? How do you think this differs from the girl's perspective? 

You have to remember that not every guy sees women the same or even view sex the same. What you're asking is quite personalized and the answer will only reflect how the person answering feels personally about this topic. I've personally encountered guys who view sex as something special and, not only that, view the woman as special IN THOSE MOMENTS and it shows in the way they respond to you. If it weren't special then there wouldn't be videos made about how to get laid and so many coaches on both sides teaching and recommending things to people on how to accomplish said things. 

Some people are so invested in these things uncontrollably and not to their liking and it has become an obsession or addiction that the only way for them to cope with it is to deny it's importance. I'm not saying this is the case here or with anyone in particular, I'm simply mentioning that this may be the case with some people both men and women. All you have to do is see how a person reacts to something with strong emotions and the intensity in the way they dismiss this premise. Take every advice, suggestion and recommendation about dating and sexuality as just that and not actual because it's a very personalized topic and people's attraction to various things and why they're attracted is a complicated thing and most are not even aware themselves on how this is happening.

Edited October 18 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

21 minutes ago, AION said:

It is usually women shaming other women for being too slutty. Not men. We would actually love it. 😅

Most men will only slut shame the women they're not sleeping with, unless they are arguing some how, but as soon as that woman becomes a prospect for them to have a chance at sleeping with her, like you said, they are loving that slut. 

As soon as they break-up or she sleeps with someone else, she's back to being slut shamed. Women call other women sluts because they fear she takes her man or the man she wants chooses them over her - other reasons too but it's usually for jealousy reasons. She looks better than her, sexier than her.....things like that. People usually don't hate on the poor or people they consider beneath them.

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Plenty of guys actively want it not to be special because then there's more freedom and less attachment

What this statement reveals to me, and it's my personal opinion, is that it is special, but there is a conscious intentional motive to let it not be so, in order to leave room and space for there not be attachments and to gain more freedom in this respect. There are actions there to prevent it from not feeling special intentionally for some kind of protection. If there wasn't a chance for it to ever be special the guy would see no need to actively want to do anything.

Edited October 18 by Princess Arabia

[Bando]

@AION Next time call out the frame she's putting out. Some times women are anxious and create distance as a defense mechanism. Build some vibe with regular convo and on a high point do a soft call out, something like "Why are you sitting so far it feels like I'm talking with my bro" , anything along those lines that calls out the situation and move closer or ask her to come closer. 

Establish a proper man to woman vibe, a girl your on a date with shouldn't get the feeling you guys are "friends" if she does give that energy its up to you whether you want to accept it or not.

Also pro tip if you invite a girl over to your spot put boxes or other larger items on any sitting surface accept the one you want her to sit on