Posted October 16 1 minute ago, zurew said: You are dodging and not really responding to any of my earlier points ( you dodging those, speaks volumes about you not really having a response to any of them and you not being able to concede that you have a bad argument that falls apart). Trump being Antichrist is comaptible with being a christian. But again for the last time, they don't need to categorize him as being Antichrist , him doing bad actions can be explained away multiple ways (1) deny those things happened, 2) deny that those were committed by Trump 3) Even if Trump did it , he was forced to do those things by bad and evil actors) You had 0 response to my eariler points and you are desperately upholding this very naive and frankly bad argument, where you end up making claims like Trump need to kill people or that Trump need to say bad things about Jesus (after winning the election in order christians beliefs) none of which is grounded in reality in any way and none which would change chrisitans beliefs because all of that is compatible with being a christian. I have answered all your questions, and you are making arguments that you do not support. You say that Christians will do this and that without any solid explanations, just your own experiences. Christians would not question God if He started to harm you, for example, but they definitely do not see Trump as God, and they would question him even if it takes a long time. The end of separation is the end of desire. It’s life, it’s death, it’s unity; it is the absolute. In this profound realization, we find perfection eternal, a state of everlasting harmony. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 16 (edited) I could generate a bunch of bad arguments as well why should Kamala win and why that would change the beliefs of MAGA and Christians. Also your argument doesn't seem to rely much on the premise that Trump needs to win, because the main premise seems to be Trump doing an action that would be considered horrendous by Christians, and that premise is compatible with Trump losing the election (even though I still think that that main premise is stupid in the context of the argument you are trying to make, because it can be explained away very easily to maintain their beliefs). Edited October 16 by zurew Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 16 (edited) @zurew Of course, they will say they were wrong about Trump being a prophet, but that does not disprove my point! They will think, “Wow, Christians believed for years that God told them Trump was a prophet,” but my belief is probably just a delusion and no voice comes from God. So you really cannot think deeply about this. My goal is for them to question their God and other Christians who say they hear from God. It is obvious that you are just messing around and want to preach your nonsense, which is not much better than the Bible itself. Edited October 16 by Spiritual Warfare The end of separation is the end of desire. It’s life, it’s death, it’s unity; it is the absolute. In this profound realization, we find perfection eternal, a state of everlasting harmony. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 16 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said: Very true, but Christians are very much in love with Jesus, and their love for Trump is not even close. Regarding Hitler, you are right that the brainwashing was very strong, but they had no one else to look up to; they probably believed Hitler was a god. However, Christians do not see Trump as God but just as a man. So I think the situation might be a bit different than what happened in Nazi Germany. I'm just going by the guidelines you set in the thread. If christians believe he's a prophet that's basically equivalent to Jesus. Personally I don't see that. I think they may think he aligns with their views but being Godlike is another matter. More likely they are just brainwashed Trumpists. And he aligns with their overall worldview. And they definitely glorify him. Edited October 16 by Inliytened1 Wisdom. Truth. Love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 16 1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said: I'm just going by the guidelines you set in the thread. If christians believe he's a prophet that's basically equivalent to Jesus. Personally I don't see that. I think they may think he aligns with their views but being Godlike is another matter. More likely they are just brainwashed Trumpists. And he aligns with their overall worldview. And they definitely glorify him. Christians definitely praise Trump, which is a sin according to the Bible. They really don’t read their Bible; instead, they focus on what feels good and pretend that the bad parts don’t exist. The end of separation is the end of desire. It’s life, it’s death, it’s unity; it is the absolute. In this profound realization, we find perfection eternal, a state of everlasting harmony. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 16 2 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said: Christians definitely praise Trump, which is a sin according to the Bible. They really don’t read their Bible; instead, they focus on what feels good and pretend that the bad parts don’t exist. And Im sure there are the fanatics that feel he is the hand of God too. But most probably just think he might be a pawn in Gods overall plan. Wisdom. Truth. Love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 16 3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said: And Im sure there are the fanatics that feel he is the hand of God too. But most probably just think he might be a pawn in Gods overall plan. Maybe God needs to rethink His strategy if Trump is the best He could come up with! The end of separation is the end of desire. It’s life, it’s death, it’s unity; it is the absolute. In this profound realization, we find perfection eternal, a state of everlasting harmony. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 16 10 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said: Maybe God needs to rethink His strategy if Trump is the best He could come up with! Everything is according to God’s Will. I’m actually afraid of Biden and Kamala is from the same office so things will just continue as they are. From a human perspective, things sucks😅 Maybe Trump is the way to go. I don’t remember such a chaos when he was in the office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 16 1 minute ago, Heaven said: Everything is according to God’s Will. I’m actually afraid of Biden and Kamala is from the same office so things will just continue as they are. From a human perspective, things sucks😅 Maybe Trump is the way to go. I don’t remember such a chaos when he was in the office. I would vote for Trump if he were against religion. Trump doesn’t deserve as much hate as he gets, but he has definitely messed up now. The end of separation is the end of desire. It’s life, it’s death, it’s unity; it is the absolute. In this profound realization, we find perfection eternal, a state of everlasting harmony. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 16 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Heaven said: Everything is according to God’s Will. I’m actually afraid of Biden and Kamala is from the same office so things will just continue as they are. From a human perspective, things sucks😅 Maybe Trump is the way to go. I don’t remember such a chaos when he was in the office. What I'm afraid of with the Biden/Kamala administration is that they don't think with their own mind. They are pawns for their party. Trump at least is his own mind. That actually could also be a very bad thing because then you can get a true dictator. Edited October 16 by Inliytened1 Wisdom. Truth. Love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 16 (edited) 4 hours ago, Spiritual Warfare said: Vote for Trump, because if Trump wins the election, which he likely will, people in the U.S. might believe it’s part of God’s plan. However, everyone knows Trump is not truly Christian, and he will end up sabotaging the country. This will make those Christians doubt their faith and question if God really exists, especially since many believe Trump is some sort of prophet or chosen by God. If Kamala wins, people in the U.S. will think it’s from Satan, because according to the Bible, a woman is not supposed to lead. This would only strengthen their belief in the Bible, since they are misguided. So, let Trump win. Think long-term and don’t see this as a bad thing. Reducing the influence of religious people is necessary so we can have a world focused on positive progress, where true spirituality is more visible, appreciated, and recognized as a truth of existence. Man, this is so absurd. "Pull the trigger and hold the grenade so you know it works on your enemies" They likely would just blame Biden anyway.. Edited October 16 by Thought Art "Unburdened and Becoming" - Bon Iver ◭"89"◮ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 16 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said: I would vote for Trump if he were against religion. Trump doesn’t deserve as much hate as he gets, but he has definitely messed up now. No, he deserves even more. You are ignorant and foolish on this topic. He has no idea how to be president, is extremely corrupt and has done extreme damage to the collective psyche of the United States. Those who worked closely with him have sounded the alarm that he is the most dangerous man in the world right now. Edited October 16 by Thought Art "Unburdened and Becoming" - Bon Iver ◭"89"◮ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17 If Trump wins and things go south they will probably just say the devil is strong. And then scapegoat some minority. Be-Do-Have There is no failure, only feedback Do what works Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Posted October 17 "Unburdened and Becoming" - Bon Iver ◭"89"◮ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 17 (edited) Locking this for low quality. @Spiritual Warfare You are skating on thin ice. Edited October 17 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
