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Leo’s overuse of spiral dynamics

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Spiral Dynamics is very useful when it comes to survival. I also look at it as a tool for navigating how to get my “foot in the door”, to connect with the individual or the magic that’s actually there. But the trap is using it as a hindrance….letting it define people and limit your experience of them.

It shrinks people into groups and personalities, ignoring their actual magic. This not only leads to seeing people incorrectly but also behaving in ways that reinforce that image.

It can obviously become an attachment, a way to create a sense of safety and structure, bypassing the deeper intelligence that exists beyond the framework.

I dont know how @Leo Gura uses the model but saying things like ‘If people would stop acting it, I would stop using it,’ CAN be a sign of overlooking the fact that it’s easy to become selective in what you focus on.

By loosening my attachment to these frameworks, I found a much richer and expansive view of reality.

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The trick is to know where it can and cannot be used.


Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being.

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@Spiral Wizard Your comment reminded me of a friend of mine deep in green. I explained her the SD models and all the limitations of green and how she could make the transition to yellow and how that would look like and so on.

At the end of the discussion she was very thankful and said well maybe I wanna juice green for some more years. I still feel there's a lot of work to do here and now I'm aware of my next steps and when I am ready, I'll take them.


God-Realize, this is First Business. Know that unless I live properly, this is not possible.

There is this body, I should know the requirements of my body. This is first duty. We have obligations towards others, loved ones, family, society, etc. Without material wealth we cannot do these things, for that a professional duty.

There is Mind; mind is tricky. Its higher nature should be nurtured, then Mind becomes Virtuous and Conscious. When all Duties are continuously fulfilled, then life becomes steady. In this steady life God is available; via 5-MeO-DMT, ... Living in Self-Love, Realizing I am Infinity & I am God

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is there any correct way to start the spiral dynamics series? i've watched the 3 part series of 9 stages of ego development from leo and now i want to get into spiral dynamics. happy to get some insight

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