You are blessed to have a self

[UnbornTao]

33 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Nobody can construct sentience. And you are a sentient being. 

Why do you take "self" to be what you are? Aren't we making a distinction here between self and being?

This is a distinction that is hard to grasp experientially and that virtually no one makes.

Edited October 15 by UnbornTao

[Salvijus]

@Spiritual Warfare

Nice pic ✨🌻💪 

[Sugarcoat]

2 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

There is a physical body with senses and instincts, and it will turn its head if it's name is called....but its just emptiness appearing as a me.

Me is constantly seeking so-called positive experiences and rejecting so-called negative experiences.

The me being an illusion isn't a good or bad recognition. It's just a neutral recognition. It's not better or worse for a me. It's the end of me and therfore the end of better vs worse!

❤️ 

that’s true in the absolute sense

i see there are negative sides to the self this post highlighted the positive ones though and what it allows us to do and experience fundamentally

also I think there’s different kinds of self dissolution but that’s for another topic 

 

”you’re” blessed to have no sense of self! Sure something must be different about it, or not? It sounds preferable over having a sense of self

[Sugarcoat]

2 hours ago, LoseYourvelf said:

Where does the self  begin and end

What is the length of the self

What does it smell and taste like

What observes it

That’s the question we seemingly can’t answer 

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Salvijus said:

@Spiritual Warfare

Nice pic ✨🌻💪 

Thank you🥹😁  

[Sugarcoat]

2 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

It's a shallow illusion.

I well contemplated how we directly manifest and are attached to our negative experiences at a certain level of consciousness. 

How? I’ve heard this before , how we can be attached to stress somehow

[Sugarcoat]

1 hour ago, enchanted said:

Awesome insight. Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to other insights from you and everyone else. 

Thanks that’s so sweet

[Salvijus]

2 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Why do you take your self to be what you are? 

I'm just saying the self is the only thing you can possibly be. And it's not a construction. It's eternal I AM. 

3 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Then again, aren't we making a distinction here between being and self?

The I AM is the self. 

[Sugarcoat]

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

spirituality is killing this self

Yes, but this post highlighted the positives of the self, basically saying what it allows us to experience fundamentally, without a self there wouldn’t even be an experience in a way as there’s not something separate from oneself to experience, can’t imagine how that would be

[Sugarcoat]

1 hour ago, Salvijus said:

If you know that you exist, you must have a sense of what that you is.

Worth repeating for one more person here. 

Agreed

[Sugarcoat]

25 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Interesting that you frame self as being had by us, similar to how we say we have a body. This suggests that it is not us and is perhaps constructed.

A Koan: Find your self.

It’s just language id say. It’s like saying “I have no sense of self” it doesn’t make sense since it implies there is a someone without a sense of self. But it’s just what happens with language. I personally can say I “have” a sense of self, but at the same time I cannot “find my self” as a thing , it’s too direct. 

[Sugarcoat]

10 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Because we were talking about survival earlier, and it becomes harder when people start shooting and hurting each other for no good reason.

You have some point yes, I know you’re from Sweden and it’s been an increase in these shootings if I’ve heard correctly, I’m personally not concerned about it for my own sake but I can see how it could be a concern 

[Sugarcoat]

11 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

If the seperate sense of self dissappeared, you'd still know you exist. 

How does that work? Enlighten me

[Salvijus]

1 minute ago, Sugarcoat said:

It’s like saying “I have no sense of self” it doesn’t make sense since it implies there is a someone without a sense of self

Bingo. 

1 minute ago, Sugarcoat said:

But it’s just what happens with language. I personally can say I “have” a sense of self, but at the same time I cannot “find my self” as a thing , it’s too direct. 

You can find the footprints of the personal sense of self. Every time, fear, judgement, anxiety, insecurity, impatience, envy, low self esteem, arrogance, greed etc comes into play, it's the presence of the personal seperate sense of self. 

[Salvijus]

2 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

How does that work? Enlighten me

If seperation disappeared, who would know there is no more seperation? You would know. 

Edited October 15 by Salvijus

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, Sugarcoat said:

You have some point yes, I know you’re from Sweden and it’s been an increase in these shootings if I’ve heard correctly, I’m personally not concerned about it for my own sake but I can see how it could be a concern 

I’m glad that you feel safe. Do you perhaps live in the countryside?🙃

[Sugarcoat]

Basically this post highlighted how the average human experience isn’t so bad after all. And by being conscious sentient beings it allows us to experience good things , in contrast to for example a plant that doesn’t have a conscious experience. One could wonder though , if the sense of self disappeared would all the things I wrote still be possible? What’s the difference between a vegetable and an enlightened person in terms of their “pov”? It might sound ridiculous but it’s something legit that could be discussed

[Sugarcoat]

2 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Bingo. 

You can find the footprints of the personal sense of self. Every time, fear, judgement, anxiety, insecurity, impatience, envy, low self esteem, arrogance, greed etc comes into play, it's the presence of the personal seperate sense of self. 

I agree.

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

I’m glad that you feel safe. Do you perhaps live in the countryside?🙃

No I live near the capital 😊

[Sugarcoat]

2 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

If seperation disappeared, who would know there is no more seperation? You would know. 

You’re saying “you” as in existence itself ?