You are blessed to have a self

[LoseYourvelf]

Where does the self  begin and end

What is the length of the self

What does it smell and taste like

What observes it

Edited October 15 by LoseYourvelf

[Schizophonia]

1 minute ago, VeganAwake said:

Me is constantly seeking so-called positive experiences and rejecting so-called negative experiences.

It's a shallow illusion.

I well contemplated how we directly manifest and are attached to our negative experiences at a certain level of consciousness. 

[enchanted]

2 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

You are blessed to have a normal self

To be able to experience and explore a deep substantial 3D reality with this self

To be able to collect experiences with this self

To be able to relate to other selves and form relationships with them

To be able to think, to gather knowledge, ingest information, and conceptualize about yourself, your experiences, the world and others

To be able to work on yourself to develop to a better self

To be able to experience the contrast between self and no self

Your normal self might not be the perfect structure, but it’s a base, from which you have the opportunity to work with to improve, or to break apart 

your normal self is the base for your experience of anything, it’s what’s needed to have any experience at all. It gives substance to the world and others. It’s the foundation for your entire life 

This is taken for granted because it’s the norm

Awesome insight. Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to other insights from you and everyone else. 

[Javfly33]

3 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

You are blessed to have a normal self

To be able to experience and explore a deep substantial 3D reality with this self

To be able to collect experiences with this self

To be able to relate to other selves and form relationships with them

To be able to think, to gather knowledge, ingest information, and conceptualize about yourself, your experiences, the world and others

To be able to work on yourself to develop to a better self

To be able to experience the contrast between self and no self

Your normal self might not be the perfect structure, but it’s a base, from which you have the opportunity to work with to improve, or to break apart 

your normal self is the base for your experience of anything, it’s what’s needed to have any experience at all. It gives substance to the world and others. It’s the foundation for your entire life 

This is taken for granted because it’s the norm

spirituality is killing this self

[James123]

1 hour ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Is the self not the ego? Existence is simply existence, it does not possess an identity.

you are the existence, which is the ego, If there is no you, now is before so called birth. 

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Haha, “rebellious” might be too strong a word. Sorry! I mean that many of those who have come here have behaved poorly and don’t want to change. They can even commit murder without feeling guilty about it.

I don't exactly know why, but it's like italian people naturally infiltrate far right everywhere in europe 😂

 

[Salvijus]

1 hour ago, VeganAwake said:

There is a physical body with senses and instincts, and it will turn its head if it's name is called....but its just emptiness appearing as a me.

Me is constantly seeking so-called positive experiences and rejecting so-called negative experiences.

The me being an illusion isn't a good or bad recognition. It's just a neutral recognition. It's not better or worse for a me. It's the end of me and therfore the end of better vs worse!

❤️ 

If you know that you exist, you must have a sense of what that you is.

Worth repeating for one more person here. 

Edited October 15 by Salvijus

[Salvijus]

Does Santa Clous knows that he does not exist? No. 

Do you know that you do not exist? Yes.

That means you do exist. And you have a sense of self unlike Santa Clous. 

Edited October 15 by Salvijus

[Javfly33]

43 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

If you know that you exist, you must have a sense of what that you is.

Worth repeating for one more person here. 

 

2 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Does Santa Clous knows that he does not exist? No. 

Do you know that you do not exist? Yes.

That means you do exist. And you have a sense of self unlike Santa Clous. 

Yeah lol, that shit is completely ridiculous: is like holding a key in my hand and repeating myself there is no key in my hand 😵‍💫😂

[James123]

3 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

 

Yeah lol, that shit is completely ridiculous: is like holding a key in my hand and repeating myself there is no key in my hand 😵‍💫😂

That's why it is called nothingness. Therefore, explaining as                                                                                                                      .

[Salvijus]

15 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

 

Yeah lol, that shit is completely ridiculous: is like holding a key in my hand and repeating myself there is no key in my hand 😵‍💫😂

It's like looking for your glasses and not finding them while wearing them 😄

[UnbornTao]

Interesting that you frame self as being had by us, similar to how we say we have a body. This suggests that it is not us, and it might ultimately be constructed.

A Koan for you: find your self.

Edited October 16 by UnbornTao

[Salvijus]

12 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Interesting that you frame self as being had by us, similar to how we say we have a body. This suggests that it is not us and is perhaps constructed.

Nobody can construct sentience. And you are a sentient being. 

 

Edited October 15 by Salvijus

[Sugarcoat]

3 hours ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Haha, “rebellious” might be too strong a word. Sorry! I mean that many of those who have come here have behaved poorly and don’t want to change. They can even commit murder without feeling guilty about it.

Sure immigration has brought with it some criminals but I don’t see how it connects to my point

[Sugarcoat]

2 hours ago, Salvijus said:

If you know you exist, you have a sense of self. Self is existence itself and you are that. 

I’m with you on the first sentence but not the second. Second sounds non dual while the first sounds dual 

[Sugarcoat]

2 hours ago, Salvijus said:

Without the ego you would still know that you exist. As what? As existence itself. So your sense of self is always something. There can't be an experience without the sense of self. 

Your mixing together non duality and duality here again I don’t get what you mean.

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

I don't exactly know why, but it's like italian people naturally infiltrate far right everywhere in europe 😂

 

Is that so😂

[Sugarcoat]

2 hours ago, Salvijus said:

If you know you exist, you must have a sense of you. 

I just wanted to repeat this so it would sink in better. 

Ofc yea I agree. The sense of I know I am here is the sense of separate self

[Spiritual Warfare]

2 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Sure immigration has brought with it some criminals but I don’t see how it connects to my point

Because we were talking about survival earlier, and it becomes harder when people start shooting and hurting each other for no good reason.

[Salvijus]

1 minute ago, Sugarcoat said:

Ofc yea I agree. The sense of I know I am here is the sense of separate self

If the seperate sense of self dissappeared, you'd still know you exist.