Are these woman lying? (Is this Dogma in Dating Culture?)

[Schizophonia]

4 minutes ago, Emerald said:

Can you clarify what you mean? 

It doesn't seem to fit with what I was talking about.

I was talking about feeling most secure, desired, and loved when a guy sees me as valuable and beautiful.

Yes i meant that.

[Nemra]

4 minutes ago, Emerald said:

I mean more attractive in a physical way specifically. And I mean from my perspective.

If you find someone physically more attractive than you from your perspective, then how is that devaluing them?

[bambi]

2 minutes ago, Emerald said:

I don't understand why you're trying to shoot arrows at me all the time and attack me personally.

What did I do to you to deserve this unkindness?

That post was directed at Schizophrenia, not to you. He was somehow assuming your were saying you dont want male admiraiton, when its the opposite, so not sure how he was getting that

Sorry if you feel my posts are unkind, I like to objectively analyse things, and cut to the shit, appreciate if this isnt your style. Is there anything particular you felt that was unkind so I have reference

[Princess Arabia]

15 minutes ago, Emerald said:

I don't understand why you're trying to shoot arrows at me all the time and attack me personally.

What did I do to you to deserve this unkindness?

Don't take it personally. People are who are are NOT WHAT THEY DO FOR A LIVING as he likes to suggests.

[Princess Arabia]

13 minutes ago, bambi said:

That post was directed at Schizophrenia, not to you. He was somehow assuming your were saying you dont want male admiraiton, when its the opposite, so not sure how he was getting that

Sorry if you feel my posts are unkind, I like to objectively analyse things, and cut to the shit, appreciate if this isnt your style. Is there anything particular you felt that was unkind so I have reference

Three people in this thread alone and just today, and within the last 2hrs, I believe,  have accused you of being unkind and you need reference? Have time?

[bambi]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

Don't take it personally. People are who are are NOT WHAT THEY DO FOR A LIVING as he likes to suggests.

My first ever girlfriend was an escort, Im not judging you for you work choices. I dont think its fundementally healthy or good for spiritual growth, but thats your prerogative.

You missed the core point of my post, it wasn't judging your life style choices, it was crticising how you posture and imply to represent broad or average female sexuality, which is an absurdity to me

[bambi]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

Three people in this thread alone and just today, and within the last 2hrs, I believe,  have accused you of being unkind and you need reference? Have time?

I think theres alot of confusion between us all. We have different preferences for discourse, and this preferences can clash. I dislike pretense and bullshit, I like people to be honest and authentic. If I don't see this often times Ill mirror someone, but rather then be subtle Ill be explicit, to cut through the games

[Princess Arabia]

17 minutes ago, Nemra said:

If you find someone physically more attractive than you from your perspective, then how is that devaluing them?

That's because people here who have a problem with her comment about liking less attractive men value looks themselves over character. She said nothing g about liking disresptful men or men with negative traits. 

[Nemra]

@Princess Arabia, I'm talking about something else.

If someone is physically attractive, especially more attractive than you, from your perspective, then you are attracted to them. Isn't it so?

It would have been different if you thought of them as attractive from others' perspectives.

Maybe I misunderstood what @Emerald meant by saying "from my perspective".

Edited October 15 by Nemra

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

Imagine using only fans girls to understand women as if they act as some representation 😂😂😂 

no offense just thought it was a little funny okay

Believe it or not most working girls of all kinds are not like the character they play in their jobs. Thats why it can work for them. Imagine a real slutty woman in real life being a slut on camera and playing both roles for most of her entire life. Most women who are slutty on the streets or in real life could not play those parts because they would take it too personal and also, and you might not understand this, the guys would be able to sense it and not like her as much.

Like I always say, people misjudge those in the adult industry, porn is a little bit different because it takes a little different mindset to do that but OF girls are not sleeping with their clients and a lot of working girls aren't having sex. So the misconception is huge. Look where I am in my spare time. I'm not out partying or galavanting and engaged in nonsense, I'm on a forum talking about spiritual stuff and reading books and making recipes. Most other working girls I know are just taking care of their kids and having family time. We are very misunderstood. Not to say anything bad about them but it's the clubbing girls, neighborhood girls and conservative women like nurses, librarians, secretaries etc who are really sleeping around. Of course not all, just saying. I can prove it to you. Go and see the types of people that go to swingers clubs, nude beaches and are online looking for hook up and casual sex. Do a survey and you'll see it's the girl next door type. When I'm not working I don't want to be bothered with that type stuff and most guys who patronize are way worse and are very sexually loose. Lots of people in the business world are very promiscuous and engage in lewd sexual activity. The working girl is mostly just doing a job and can turn that off when she gets home. So don't think OF girls are any different they just have a more open mind, see an opportunity to make money and do.

 

[Princess Arabia]

23 minutes ago, bambi said:

My first ever girlfriend was an escort, Im not judging you for you work choices. I dont think its fundementally healthy or good for spiritual growth

Adult work comes in various ways and depends on the character playing the role. Not all do the same things, and not all conduct themselves the same way. You are perceiving it too much on a general scale without knowing the details of what each character does and how they perform. Spiritual growth, for me and in my case, is not an impediment. To me and how I work would be complimentary to if I was dealing with regular people but the difference is I'm getting paid. I'm not on the streets neither am I on camera. It has varied throughout the years on the types of adult stuff I've engaged in; but I can assure you it hasn't been strenuous neither on my mind nor body because neither one is being overworked in the process. Maybe a tiny fraction but I encounter more stress in day-to-day life and with regular people and sign bfs than I do in my work and especially on this forum.

[bambi]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

Adult work comes in various ways and depends on the character playing the role. Not all do the same things, and not all conduct themselves the same way. You are perceiving it too much on a general scale without knowing the details of what each character does and how they perform. Spiritual growth, for me and in my case, is not an impediment. To me and how I work would be complimentary to if I was dealing with regular people but the difference is I'm getting paid. I'm not on the streets neither am I on camera. It has varied throughout the years on the types of adult stuff I've engaged in; but I can assure you it hasn't been strenuous neither on my mind nor body because neither one is being overworked in the process. Maybe a tiny fraction but I encounter more stress in day-to-day life and with regular people and sign bfs than I do in my work and especially on this forum.

 

No, what Im saying is this: to engage in sex work of any kind is to have low self esteem. And this will be come cristal clear the more you evolve spirtiually. No advanced spiritual person is farting or pissing on peoples face for money for example lol, its degrading and demeaning to both participants

[Princess Arabia]

23 minutes ago, Nemra said:

If someone is physically attractive, especially more attractive than you, from your perspective, then you are attracted to them. Isn't it so?

Emerald and I have different likes in this respect. I don't really care if the guy is more attractive than I am; and not to sound cocky, but I'm already a naturally beautiful woman so it's very rare that the case is where he's more attractive than I am; and if that were the case, I believe I wouldn't mind. Don't think I've ever ran into that situation, though. This is probably why, in my case, looks aren't that important and especially where they need to be more or less attractive looking. I carry that weight for both of us.

[Princess Arabia]

16 minutes ago, bambi said:

 

No, what Im saying is this: to engage in sex work of any kind is to have low self esteem. And this will be come cristal clear the more you evolve spirtiually. No advanced spiritual person is farting or pissing on peoples face for money for example lol, its degrading and demeaning to both participants

You cannot tell me why I've decided to do this kind of work. Some women could only dream of getting paid hundreds of dollars from one client for a half an hr just to talk. (not saying it's in all cases but it does happen)It's a lucrative business and pays well. Between sitting at a desk and working for someone getting paid average salary and making someone else rich, I'll choose what I do over that. Not saying those are the only choices but in this business it's possible to make tons of money doing the bare minimum and it has nothing to do with my self-esteem being low. It's when I realize the details of the work and what's possible is how I ended up staying in it. I could list here the amount of times I got paid good money for doing stuff that anybody else does for free and it didn't entail having intercourse. That's the only reason i'm in it because I wouldn't and couldn't if it were otherwise. No one has to believe me; but I've said time and time again I don't have intercourse doing what I do very very rarely, and as a matter of fact the girls that dont are the ones making more money except for porn stars. You have no idea what this business is like on the varied scale and having low self-esteem isn't a criteria for a woman who is willing to be of service in ways she finds reputable and doesn't destroy her character. 

Edited October 15 by Princess Arabia

[Emerald]

1 hour ago, Nemra said:

If you find someone physically more attractive than you from your perspective, then how is that devaluing them?

I don't find that it devalues them. There are many attractive men that I value as people.

I just tend to have platonic feelings for them.

[bambi]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

You cannot tell me why I've decided to do this kind of work. Some women could only dream if getting paid hundreds of dollars from one client for a half an hr just to talk. (nit saying it's in all cases but it does happen)It's a lucrative business and pays well. Between sitting at a desk and working for someone getting paid average salary and making someone else rich, I'll choose what I do over that. Not saying those are the inky choices but in this business it's possible to make tons of money doing the bare minimum and it has nothing to do with my self-esteem being low. It's when I realize the details of the work and what's possible is how I ended up staying in it. I could list herd the amount of times I got paid good money for doing stuff that anybody else does fir free and it didn't entail having intercourse. That's the only reason ilm in it because I wouldn't and couldn't if it were otherwise. No one has to belive me but I've said time and time again I don't have intervourse doing what I do and as a matter of fact the girls that font are the ones making more money except for porn stars. You have no idea what this business is like on the varied scale and having low self-self esteem isn't a criteria for a woman who is willing to be of service in ways she finds reputable and doesn't destroy her character. 

No  you are missing my point.

To engage with it on any level, whatever the justiifcaitons (self deceit) are will erode your self esteem - whether your concious of it or not. Its like a metaphysical law

At the level your at right now, maybe this isnt obvious, but if you think your becoming an enlightened sex worker, it isnt happening

[Emerald]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

Yes i meant that.

What is it about me tending to be attracted to more average looking guys over very attractive guys that's disappointing to you?

I'm not quite understanding why that would be a problem from your perspective.

[LoseYourvelf]

Hey more for me and you, right @Schizophonia

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, bambi said:

No  you are missing my point.

To engage with it on any level, whatever the justiifcaitons (self deceit) are will erode your self esteem - whether your concious of it or not. Its like a metaphysical law

At the level your at right now, maybe this isnt obvious, but if you think your becoming an enlightened sex worker, it isnt happening

Sorry but, the fact that I know there's no such thing as enlightenment means I'm not doing too bad. You don't even know me personally but you've drawn these conclusions. Shows how far you have to go. In fact, I treat people with respect, kindness and compassion even during work and those are traits that so-called enlightened people exude. If you think popping some psychedelics and having God realization and being mean to people on a forum and judging and criticizing every step of the way and every multiple forum members finding you a menace is enlightenment of moving closer to it than a sex worker who mostly shows the opposite traits and is not a forum bully then you have no idea what it is to be enlightened.

[bambi]

5 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Sorry but, the fact that I know there's no such thing as enlightenment means I'm not doing too bad. You don't even know me personally but you've drawn these conclusions. Shows how far you have to go. In fact, I treat people with respect, kindness and compassion even during work and those are traits that so-called enlightened people exude. If you think popping some psychedelics and having God realization and being mean to people on a forum and judging and criticizing every step of the way and every multiple forum members finding you a menace is enlightenment of moving closer to it than a sex worker who mostly shows the opposite traits and is not a forum bully then you have no idea what it is to be enlightened.

Enlightenment is simply what it says, no more self deceit or unconciousness