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Are these woman lying? (Is this Dogma in Dating Culture?)

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@Princess Arabia, So, I actually did get you, apart from the looks. 😌

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My spiritual mentor Franck Lopvet is a model of masculinity for me.

At least that's the energy I "naturally" tend towards.

 


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@Buck Edwards The problem here is that they don't know anything about these men.

This could essentially be saying God is giving you the perfect man for you personality wise, what do you want him to look like out of these 2?

And they pick number 1.

Some will for sure but not for any reason beside not wanting to feel like a pedophile. They would still pick 2 in a dream.

 

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1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

Good question. Certain things will only come out of feminine men. Certain men can only see certain things when they themselves aren't mature to see them and certain attractive looking men don't want to accept that women aren't just in for the looks. They actually get offended when women say it's not just all about the looks or chose a less attractive guy over them. That's feminine behavior. 

Language exposes you thats so true,individual see on the level of their perceptions if you point him/her in deeper meaning behind it it wont register.True its reactive feminine behaviour ,feminine guy only sees attraction through looks/status/money since he himself is not on a deeper level of seeing himself.Sure way to spot it is: to go under the videos and see the comments bashing women and in my opinion women's game is to throw claims to weed out weak males reactions.


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7 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Language exposes you thats so true,individual see on the level of their perceptions if you point him/her in deeper meaning behind it it wont register.True its reactive feminine behaviour ,feminine guy only sees attraction through looks/status/money since he himself is not on a deeper level of seeing himself.Sure way to spot it is: to go under the videos and see the comments bashing women and in my opinion women's game is to throw claims to weed out weak males reactions.

Nothing to do, but are you able to check the geographic origin of users ?

I know another crazy French guy who was supposed to sign up here but disappeared.
I think about it because this guy was on a famous steroid forum and was looking for ways to overmasculinize himself lol.

I suspect it's @TheUnknown, or someone else registered thereabouts the end of July.

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3 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Buck Edwards The problem here is that they don't know anything about these men.

This could essentially be saying God is giving you the perfect man for you personality wise, what do you want him to look like out of these 2?

And they pick number 1.

 

Everything depends on the woman you're dating. If she is a woman with attitude, she will reject a man for absolutely no reason. Probably reject him to just let him down. I have known women like that, where the man has the perfect personality and average looks and he treats her like a princess and she treats him like dirt. Whereas she runs after a man who doesn't give a damn about her and might even mistreat her but she finds him adventurous because he conquers her ego and she wants to win him at all costs to prove her own self worth, such women are deeply insecure and they will reject the best guys simply to reject and feel superior about themselves. So men get confused on how to treat women and that's understandable. If you show respect to a woman and she doesn't play games and gives a decent response, that's a healthy woman.

Some men however like unhealthy women particularly, it's like a fetish for them. This was the case with my ex. He dumped me for another girl because she was treating him badly and he found that hot. As per his assumption (which he later told me), that if a woman mistreats a man, then she must be really hot and that's why she doesn't care to lose men, and he found that very seductive, that there must be something special about her if she is showing attitude. She eventually cheated on him. That was karma for him. A healthy man will choose a healthy woman and vice versa. But unfortunately sometimes even healthy men get confused because they end up with the wrong woman who reciprocates their respect with disrespect and disdain so they get confused and assume that being a bad boy will attract women. Which is not the case. 


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@Buck Edwards That sounds like a mental disorder, men do it too. Its not just unique to women. The woman arguing against picking number 2 are doing this and have a mental disorder claiming womanhood.

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1 hour ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

The reason you’re not choosing the guy on the bottom is because he’s too young for you, which makes him less attractive to you. But what I was saying is that if someone had to choose, it would be the one on the bottom, and there’s nothing wrong with saying that. It’s just how our nature works.

It's not about the guy's age. I'm only two years older than him. And I've been attracted to men who are slightly younger than me before.

But I'm very unlikely to develop an attraction towards him because he's more attractive than me. And being physically involved with him would make me feel unattractive, which is a turn off.

I have the same thing with average looking guys who brag about only being attracted to the hottest women. It just signals to me that my beauty won't be recognized or appreciated.

So, there's like this automatic platonic feeling that arises in me that solidifies neutral feelings towards the man in question.

I really need to feel like the pretty one in the relationship in order to feel desired and therefore open to connecting in that way. To me, one of the most exciting parts of connecting with a guy is the feeling of being desired and to have a sense that the guy feels like he's punching above his weight by winning my affections.

So, I tend to go for men who are a little less physically attractive than I am OR who are the same level of attractiveness to me but 5-10 years older.

With a really attractive guy like that, I don't get the sense that my beauty would be recognized and that I will be valued or cherished. And so, the thought of being physical with a really attractive guy feels unappealing to me despite the fact that I can recognize that he's classically handsome. It would just give me an icky feeling.


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1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

same

I suspect that this is common for many women.

I know there are also many women who feel more attractive by finding a very attractive partner.

But that would just make me feel weird.

I much prefer a Fred and Wilma Flintstone kind of dynamic.


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5 minutes ago, Emerald said:

It's not about the guy's age. I'm only two years older than him. And I've been attracted to men who are slightly younger than me before.

But I'm very unlikely to develop an attraction towards him because he's more attractive than me. And being physically involved with him would make me feel unattractive, which is a turn off.

I have the same thing with average looking guys who brag about only being attracted to the hottest women. It just signals to me that my beauty won't be recognized or appreciated.

So, there's like this automatic platonic feeling that arises in me that solidifies neutral feelings towards the man in question.

I really need to feel like the pretty one in the relationship in order to feel desired and therefore open to connecting in that way. To me, one of the most exciting parts of connecting with a guy is the feeling of being desired and to have a sense that the guy feels like he's punching above his weight by winning my affections.

So, I tend to go for men who are a little less physically attractive than I am OR who are the same level of attractiveness to me but 5-10 years older.

With a really attractive guy like that, I don't get the sense that my beauty would be recognized and that I will be valued or cherished. And so, the thought of being physical with a really attractive guy feels unappealing to me despite the fact that I can recognize that he's classically handsome. It would just give me an icky feeling.

Haha, you really want to play the queen! I’m not saying you’re ugly because you’re not. I find it interesting that you say if a guy were super good-looking, it would bother you. Do you feel it would make you less attractive, or just that he doesn’t realize how attractive you really are? But you also have to consider that your kids would look like models if both of you were very attractive, so you get a little bonus! Even if it’s not about you personally, it would still make your genes happy!


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3 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Just curious as to who you'd choose based on the last sentence in my comment (if you can take a look) who would you choose in that situation. I gave my answer there in my comment. Just curious.

That's difficult to choose for me.

I'm really not attracted to Luis Guzman, though I can recognize how some women would be.

But I would feel uncomfortable and ugly engaging romantically with Chico. And I would feel really gross.

So, honestly neither as both would feel very uncomfortable to engage physically with for different reasons.

If I had to choose I'd probably end up picking Luis Guzman because I think I'd be able to feel less self-conscious in that situation. But it still wouldn't be pleasant because I'm not attracted to him.


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54 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Nothing to do, but are you able to check the geographic origin of users ?

I know another crazy French guy who was supposed to sign up here but disappeared.
I think about it because this guy was on a famous steroid forum and was looking for ways to overmasculinize himself lol.

I suspect it's @TheUnknown, or someone else registered thereabouts the end of July.

 

Idk what you talking about.


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7 minutes ago, Emerald said:

I know there are also many women who feel more attractive by finding a very attractive partner.

But that would just make me feel weird.

I much prefer a Fred and Wilma Flintstone kind of dynamic.

Once again, agreed

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@Emerald, so, basically, you want to be the object of desire, but in your way.

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5 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Haha, you really want to play the queen! I’m not saying you’re ugly because you’re not. I find it interesting that you say if a guy were super good-looking, it would bother you. Do you feel it would make you less attractive, or just that he doesn’t realize how attractive you really are? But you also have to consider that your kids would look like models if both of you were very attractive, so you get a little bonus! Even if it’s not about you personally, it would still make your genes happy!

What is wrong with you? Are you seriously this dense? 

She has told you several times she isnt typically good looking, and such tends to date men who are also not physically attractive.

What is hard to grasp about that? She doesnt want to feel insecure in her relationship by batting above her league.

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6 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

 

Idk what you talking about.

Well learn to read.


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Just now, bambi said:

What is wrong with you? Are you seriously this dense? 

She has told you several times she isnt typically good looking, and such tends to date men who are also not physically attractive.

What is hard to grasp about that? She doesnt want to feel insecure in her relationship by batting above her league.

Oh, it’s you again. 😞 Stop trying to see everything negatively. I don’t want any more drama. I was just asking questions and trying to give her another perspective. Stop trying to turn everything into drama because I know you’ve done that before.


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1 hour ago, Hojo said:

@Buck Edwards The problem here is that they don't know anything about these men.

This could essentially be saying God is giving you the perfect man for you personality wise, what do you want him to look like out of these 2?

And they pick number 1.

Some will for sure but not for any reason beside not wanting to feel like a pedophile. They would still pick 2 in a dream.

 

I hope you noticed I didn't pick either. I said if it was a matter of life and death that i choose one, i'd choose #1. That man isn't even ugly, he's just not as attractive as the other one


 

 

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Most of the men on this forum are like children. What is so hard to grasp, women find stereotypical attractive men, attractive lol! 

What is so hard to understand, the men who have the most money/resource, and the best physicall looks, and the most confidence/charisma, date most of the women, how is this hard to understand?

This doesnt mean you cant find a partner or someone to have sex with

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1 minute ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Oh, it’s you again. 😞 Stop trying to see everything negatively. I don’t want any more drama. I was just asking questions and trying to give her another perspective. Stop trying to turn everything into drama because I know you’ve done that before.

But what game are you playing here, she told you directly several times, and you cotinue with some naive nonsense

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