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Are these woman lying? (Is this Dogma in Dating Culture?)

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4 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

There is no difference in the way i would lovingly treat a woman of varying degrees of attractiveness.
I say this because it sounds like "If he's too attractive, I don't have the power to let myself go (for fear of being ridiculed or something)."

 

Unless it's an even more twisted software ahah.

Ofc one shouldn’t treat someone differently based on attractiveness

as I said before some of it is biological so being attracted to people about your own level of attractiveness. But when it comes to women and much more attractive guys I’d say it’s not about him potentially treating them badly but simply how the woman  might struggle finding herself desirable in comparison, independent of how he treats her (even if he treats her good) ofc this doesn’t apply to all women but some can work like this

 

 

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11 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

So you want a women to take a lead ?

It was not a reproach.


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4 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Yeah because those women are at the point to be taken care of, but those choosing a model is the one who looks for adventure, since its about sexual attraction.That's how i see it.You cant ever know thats why its pointless debate.

You're right it's a pointless debate especially when the opposite sexes aren't really interested in asking how they see things. We're just projecting what we think is the case. 

To your comment here, though, the first guy is the one that looks adventurous even though the second is more attractive. Like @Emeraldsaid, and I agree, the second has more of a gay appeal and seems like he'd be in the bathroom longer than me, or wouldn't know what to do to lead the relationship. He's just cute, that's it; the other guy checked off more boxes even though he's not that attractive.


 

 

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1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

You're right it's a pointless debate especially when the opposite sexes aren't really interested in asking how they see things. We're just projecting what we think is the case. 

To your comment here, though, the first guy is the one that looks adventurous even though the second is more attractive. Like @Emeraldsaid, and I agree, the second has more of a gay appeal and seems like he'd be in the bathroom longer than me, or wouldn't know what to do to lead the relationship. He's just cute, that's it; the other guy checked off more boxes even though he's not that attractive.

The last one has a more gay appearance, it’s clear that you have never been to Europe.


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2 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

The last one has a more gay appearance, it’s clear that you have never been to Europe.

The last one does look feminine because he doesn't have a beard, so he looks more like a boy rather than a man, that's why some men like to rock a beard. Just slightly to look masculine. But the second one is definitely attractive in comparison to the first. 


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1 minute ago, Buck Edwards said:

The last one does look feminine because he doesn't have a beard, so he looks more like a boy rather than a man, that's why some men like to rock a beard. Just slightly to look masculine. But the second one is definitely attractive in comparison to the first. 

I completely agree with you. The last one is more attractive, but still more feminine than the first.


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17 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

Lmao I just focus on looks if the discussion is about looks. You can say I'm a bit look biased. :P

I'm still explaining how a man's looks can influence a woman's attraction and decision-making. The second is obviously more physically attractive (most would agree, even myself). It's just I'm not physically nor sexually attracted to his looks. Not that I don't like good-looking men, but there are various kinds of looks out there. I'll tell you a Hollywood celebrity that I find physically and sexually attractive (just saying, I'm not drooling or anything, lol) and that is Mark Walberg. Ben Afleck, to me, still looks too soft and feminine. Mark checks off all the boxes on the "what kind of guy he seems like along with his looks" category. I can be turned on by him. Not the second guy here in the pic. Seems I'd be competing with admirers from the gay community - no disrespect to him.


 

 

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9 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

The last one has a more gay appearance, it’s clear that you have never been to Europe.

Doesn't matter, even Emerald said the same thing. Guys will think differently, and that is ok. You're not a female and it doesn't matter the country. Put that second guy in a gay parade and he'll blend in perfectly - gay or not. Europe ain't got nothing to do with it.


 

 

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1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

I'm still explaining how a man's looks can influence a woman's attraction and decision-making. The second is obviously more physically attractive (most would agree, even myself). It's just I'm not physically nor sexually attracted to his looks. Not that I don't like good-looking men, but there are various kinds of looks out there. I'll tell you a Hollywood celebrity that I find physically and sexually attractive (just saying, I'm not drooling or anything, lol) and that is Mark Walberg. Ben Afleck, to me, still looks too soft and feminine. Mark checks off all the boxes on the "what kind of guy he seems like along with his looks" category. I can be turned on by him. Not the second guy here in the pic. Seems I'd be competing with admirers from the gay community - no disrespect to him.

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3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I'm still explaining how a man's looks can influence a woman's attraction and decision-making. The second is obviously more physically attractive (most would agree, even myself). It's just I'm not physically nor sexually attracted to his looks. Not that I don't like good-looking men, but there are various kinds of looks out there. I'll tell you a Hollywood celebrity that I find physically and sexually attractive (just saying, I'm not drooling or anything, lol) and that is Mark Walberg. Ben Afleck, to me, still looks too soft and feminine. Mark checks off all the boxes on the "what kind of guy he seems like along with his looks" category. I can be turned on by him. Not the second guy here in the pic. Seems I'd be competing with admirers from the gay community - no disrespect to him.

I think I like more feminine men too. I used to be like that where I only liked masculine men until I met a more feminine guy a few years ago. Someone even called him gay. But he felt alright to me. In fact he was very emotional and sentimental. I was able to connect better with him. I didn't know until then that about feminine men. Some feminine men can be demanding and bitchy, I mean you get what I'm saying. But he was the emotional lovey dovey sweet cute kind of feminine man and I liked that because he didn't expect me to be super strong. So yea it's the entire spectrum. Looks don't define it. I learned to focus more on character after that. Sometimes I am scared of the overtly masculine men because they can get aggressive and hostile rather quickly. So it has to be a careful balance. 


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These are the kinds of guys @Princess Arabia like.

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8 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

The last one does look feminine because he doesn't have a beard, so he looks more like a boy rather than a man, that's why some men like to rock a beard. Just slightly to look masculine. But the second one is definitely attractive in comparison to the first. 

To me, it's not that he looks feminine and I don't see where, if he had a beard, it would change my opinion of him much. Feminine looking, yes, but put two masculine looking guys pic side by side, if one doesn't have a certain look about him, I'd still be able to say, and just from his looks, whether he matches certain criteria. Keep in mind, these wouldn't be Absolutes and just for conversation sake; and I wouldn't make any real-life decisions just from my opinions alone on how a guy looks.


 

 

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9 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Doesn't matter, even Emerald said the same thing. Guys will think differently, and that is ok. You're not a female and it doesn't matter the country. Put that second guy in a gay parade and he'll blend in perfectly - gay or not. Europe ain't got nothing to do with it.

It does matter which continent it is because in many places, it’s illegal to appear gay. In Europe, it’s the most acceptable, and there are more gay people there.


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3 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

I think I like more feminine men too. I used to be like that where I only liked masculine men until I met a more feminine guy a few years ago. Someone even called him gay. But he felt alright to me. In fact he was very emotional and sentimental. I was able to connect better with him. I didn't know until then that about feminine men. Some feminine men can be demanding and bitchy, I mean you get what I'm saying. But he was the emotional lovey dovey sweet cute kind of feminine man and I liked that because he didn't expect me to be super strong. So yea it's the entire spectrum. Looks don't define it. I learned to focus more on character after that. Sometimes I am scared of the overtly masculine men because they can get aggressive and hostile rather quickly. So it has to be a careful balance. 

To me, masculine isn't just about looks but about demeanor and traits. We're just generalizing here and speaking off the top of our heads etc. I actually do like feminine men at times. Not feminine looking, but with the traits you mentioned above. I also like men who don't look overly aggressive and masculine like that ridiculous pic that funnyman @Spiritual Warfareshared of the Roc I believe is his name lol, but in their attitudes. Lots of masculine men out there don't look masculine as in muscles, height or deep voice, but they do have masculine traits and blend quite well with the feminine. 


 

 

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3 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

It does matter which continent it is because in many places, it’s illegal to appear gay. In Europe, it’s the most acceptable, and there are more gay people there.

That's not what I mean and didn't think you were referring to. Anyway, I see your point, even though I still think the second guy would blend in with the gays. Lol. Too cute. Even Justin Beiber ain't that cute looking and still has an air of manliness to him.


 

 

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Just now, Princess Arabia said:

That's not what I mean and didn't think you were referring to. Anyway, I see your point, even though I still think the second guy would blend in with the gays. Lol. Too cute. Even Justin Beiber ain't that cute looking and still has an air of manliness to him.

Justin looked more like a prince than the one below in his teenage years.


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@Princess Arabia, would you say that you like men with a masculine core, but femininity on top of it can make them much more attractive?

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1 hour ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

All the girls in this thread know that any normal girl would choose the guy on the bottom. However, my teacher told me in school that girls want to be angels and not be too harsh, even though they know the truth. It’s frustrating that they can’t speak the truth on a site like this. @Princess Arabia, you know what @Emerald would say, so it’s time to stop playing games.

I already told you that I'd choose neither option.

I'm not attracted to Luis, so that's a turn off for me. And Chico wouldn't be attracted to me, and that's a turn off for me. I'd feel ugly with him.

I tend to go for guys who aren't as pretty as me, but who are also pretty enough for me.

So, I'm the most attracted to average looking guys.


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Just now, Emerald said:

I already told you that I'd choose neither option.

I'm not attracted to Luis, so that's a turn off for me. And Chico wouldn't be attracted to me, and that's a turn off for me. I'd feel ugly with him.

I tend to go for guys who aren't as pretty as me, but who are also pretty enough for me.

So, I'm the most attracted to average looking guys.

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Just now, Emerald said:

I already told you that I'd choose neither option.

I'm not attracted to Luis, so that's a turn off for me. And Chico wouldn't be attracted to me, and that's a turn off for me. I'd feel ugly with him.

I tend to go for guys who aren't as pretty as me, but who are also pretty enough for me.

So, I'm the most attracted to average looking guys.

The reason you’re not choosing the guy on the bottom is because he’s too young for you, which makes him less attractive to you. But what I was saying is that if someone had to choose, it would be the one on the bottom, and there’s nothing wrong with saying that. It’s just how our nature works.


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